Politicians - from bad to worse

Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Politicians - From bad to worse
The Demolition of many an illegal building through out Kerala even though attracted less attention globally provides much to contemplate on many issues which has bee plaguing Kerala for quite a while. Kerala chief Minister V. S. Achuthanandan initiated a not much accepted (in the political circles) demolition drive of illegal buildings throughout the “Gods own country”, starting from the well known tourist destination, the highest point in Kerala - Munnar. These buildings were a sign of the cancer that had spread in the society noiselessly. The victims: the nature, the middle class and the poor. Who are behind these illegal activities? Is it the so called Mafia or is it the politicians. This is a nexus that has been running between the Mafia and the politicians for years. The current CM is definitely swung the first shot in trying to put an end to it. His efforts and that of three IPS officers in charge are definitely to be lauded. While the entire Kerala stand behind them in support, the people who stand against him are his own colleagues and Congress. It shows utter irresponsibility towards the public and a support to crony capitalists who have been mushrooming through out the state.The general public is the main victim of the extreme politicization of society who does not have voice of their own, but barks whenever their political masters tell them to. Often these small town politicians are also into illegal businesses including black money, land and pornography which have become rampant in Kerala, The price which the society in a larger picture is paying due to lack of the much needed attention from the ignorant rulers. Often the conduit for carrying out these activities is youths. Though we know Kerala as a state with high literacy rate and the state which saw phenomenal social revolution, but underneath something was going wrong. What was that is definitely a question to ponder. The reason is well understood by the public which is of course the seed sown by time. Due to the lack of industries and irrigation and other means of work, the society was increasingly becoming idle and idle mind breeds all evil. The brunt of this evil has been mostly turned towards women. The youths lured by quick money prospects and completely dogmatized by politics, and the nexus running deep between political parties and mafia, fall prey easily to these social evils.Women face the brunt of sexual perverts which has been social catastrophe without any remedy at sight. These issues are been pushed under carpet without any debate on why it was happening in the so called most literate state. The aura around the word literacy can by itself be debated. Is Literacy just the understanding of a language to read and write? Well, I personally feel that literacy should be calculated on the percentage of knowledge an individual has. I’m sure if you consider this, the total percentage of literacy in Kerala would barely cross 60%? The ghost of laziness has crept into the mainstream society, one of the reasons as to why the Manoramas and the Mathrabhumi’s has been coined as the largest selling dailies in India. The social fabric in the state is such that it discourages mingling of children of both sexes which has become a rule of sorts. This is slowly changing and one can only hope that future generation boys do not poke their nose in to private areas. Not anymore should we push these issues under the carpet. The rot that has set in for a long time should be dealt with immediately. Till now we lacked a leader at the helm who have the courage to call spade a spade in the last two decade. Now Chief Minister Achuthanandan has hit at the root of the problem which can shake the society from slumber.One can only hop this rolling stone rolls for some more time. The way CPI (M) leader Pinnarayi Vijayan who is a well known critic of Achuthanandan within the party commented on the demolition drive which was endorsed by Supreme Court clearly shows the rot inside the society. Even in this case he did not miss a chance to take a dig at Achuthanandan; whom he had used all his influence in preventing the present CM occupying chief minister’s chair. He succeeded in throwing out so many old communists, honest politicians, from the party followed by an influx of crony capitalists in to the party who deals in land, black money and other antisocial activities and their main weapons, youth. The vulgar politicization of society was a Damocles sword hanging on Keraliites for a long time.The opposition leader from Congress, Oomen chandy produces sound bites for himself; making a fool of himself. The balance of power shifting in a sea saw fashion in Kerala have never worked any wonders in Kerala. The current political spectrum in India by and large requires a change over which can work wonders for our country. All they do is win election on money power or they need a wave of sympathy to get in to power on an anti- incumbency wave.The only way is for the youth to find their voice lost in excessive politicization is to get out of this quagmire of deception from political parties. Those who still respect the old guards who brought about social revolution and has not lost their moral compass should raise their voice in a non-political platform.Except for few one off corrections which the current incumbent CM has made, Kerala has always been a ground for underdevelopment – a constant phrase which is hidden by various highlights of negativities like the “BANDH” which gets unwanted highlights for well known political gains.What’s happening in Kerala is just an example of what’s happening in our country and the loop holes in a democratic system. The alarm bells continue to ring with no head away even after 60 years of independence. What a Shame!! I’ve personally decided never to vote to elect anyone from the Indian political bandwagon which consist only of bunch of jokers barring a very few like Achuthanandan and Vajpaiee; My modest Kudos to them. However I continue to be perturbed by the state of affairs of India.Few questions that ponder in my mind are· Wouldn’t India have been better if in case British had ruled for another 25-50 years?· Is it time for India to follow the China way· When would the Political forum allow education for all which I doubt would even happen in the next 75 years as the corrupt Political parties would be the biggest losers in this eventuality· Whether the out dated constitution and other aging rules will ever be re written for the better· If a mandatory rule can be scripted to bar the ever aging politicians not be allowed to rule our country post the retirement age thereby allowing the young blood to run our country more efficiently· When would a rule be in place that permits only an educated individual is permitted to enter any legislative assemblyOn a lighter note i'm sure we all also wonder as to when the ambassador car would stop being manufactured, when we seems to progressing in many fronts which is far from reality in the so called "Gods own Country".
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thinky-thinky

Wednesday, May 30, 2007
thinky-thinky
Since this sacrilegious act came to light Sikhs all over the World have been seized of the matter.
It’s important to realize how deep this sacrilege has cut into Sikh hearts. Sikhs do not allow anyone to act as their Gurus in movies, documentaries or plays. Why enact no one can even lend his voice as any of our Guru’s voices. So how can Sikhs accept a Dera Chief trying to dress up like Guru Gobind Singh Ji and clone the Amrit ceremony.
Certian sections of Society will not understand the Sikh reponse. Take Hindus , their response will be based on their ow outlook. In Ramleela you have actors acting the role of Ram Chander Ji and in movies actors act the roles of Ram Chander Ji, Shiv Ji and Krishan Maharaj ji. On the other hand Mulsims understand our sentiments because they do not allow any human to act as Prophet Mohammed.
The Dera Chief threw the Dera’s weight behind the Congress in the Punjab State elections. There is no doubt that this did make the Congress win a few seats. There were rumors that the Dera Chief did a ‘sauda’ (deal) with the Congress and he delivered his part of the deal and now Congress was working on getting him off the hook in various heinous cases against the Dera Chief and the Dera.
The CBI has come under severe criticism from the Courts for dragging its feet in the cases against the Dera Chief. Obviously the Congress is trying to deliver on its part of the deal. But seems there was more in this deal.
There is no doubt the Dera Chief would not have dared to publicize the Jaam E Insaan ceremony with himself looking like Guru Gobind Singh had he not got the support of Congress. And Congress knew the turmoil this would create in Punjab and this was part of the deal. The aim being to destabilize the Akali Government and enforcing President’s rule and then having another go at the hustings and this time the USP would have been that only Congress can provide stability in Punjab . A re-run of the dark 1980’s.
After the sacrilege the Dera now worked on kick starting violence in Punjab . In a well planned operation Sikh protestors in Bathinda were attacked and later on Bathinda saw Dera rioters going berserk.
Sikhs up to now were just protesting and in certain places effigies of the Dera Chief were burnt. All that Sikhs were demanding was an apology.
Akal Takhat Sahib’s response to the developments was that Dera followers be boycotted and the Takhat Sahib gave the Punjab Government a directive to close the Deras in Punjab . A civil response to a very uncivil act.
After the Takhat Sahib’s diktat the Media started bifurcating Sikhs into liberals and hardliners. This brought back memories of the dark 1980s. Those were the days when Sikhs were looked upon as extremists and if you were an Amritdhari or baptized Sikh then you were a confirmed terrorist. This was because of the anti Sikh venom injected in the system. I recall I was traveling to Mumbai from Delhi and at the Security Check the Policeman found a packet of Parshad and he started toying with it in an insulting way. I told him that this was Parshad from Bangla Sahib Ji but he continued with his insinuating and insulting act. Now I lost my temper and ticked him off saying that he better stop this or I would be forced to take things in my hand. He looked at me disbelievingly as if David had challenged Goliath because it was suicidal for Sikhs to react to such acts. Anyway in the end he caved in as his Inspector in Charge was a Sikh and our argument had reached his ears and this Polieceman very sheepishly requested me for some Parshad. I used to travel very often between Delhi and Mumbai in those days and I was often harassed.
After the Dera incident started the tolerance sermons to Sikhs. People forget that tolerance means giving the other person his or her religious space. Tolerance does not mean putting up with someone spitting in your religious space. This would be cowardice or proof that you yourself lack faith in your own religion.
Some in the Media took it as an opportune moment to bash Sikhs. Questions were raised on the relevance of Sikh identity. Talk Shows had panelists who were Patit ( shaved off ) Sikhs and they were made the models as the new Sikhism. Turncoats were used to beat up Sikhism. Wonder if the Media would care to extend the same to other religions too, as other religions too are ‘blessed’ with turncoats. There are many Hindus who eat beef , so would the Media call for disfranchisement of the cow as the Mother of Hindus and for Hindus being allowed to eat Beef. There are many Muslim women who are against the multi marriages in Islam. Would the Media care to do a discussion on this and call for a stop to polygamy in Islam? The Media dare not because the Majority and Majority Minority in India will go hammer and tongs after the Media. But with Sikhs they can take this liberty because of a Brahamastra at their disposal. The Brahamsatra is just raise the extremist bogey. Turncoats cannot be the yardsticks for any religion.
This Dera episode has scratched some old wounds. And again Sikhs are being called hardliners and extremists. Well lest you all forget it were these hardliners and extremists who stood up against the Mughal oppression of Hindustan . It were these hardliners and extremists who form only 2% of India ’s population but gave the maximum sacrifices for India ’s Independence . It were these extremists and hardliners who were in the forefront in all the wars (including Kargil) that Independent India has fought. And if today India is attacked it’ll be these extremists and hardliners who will stand up first to protect their Motherland.
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Proof for resurrection

Wednesday, May 30, 2007
proof for Resurrection
The evidence available for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ is appealing both to the intellectual and spiritual realm. The first century christians and the apostles, spread the good news of the gospel by preaching the resurrection of Jesus Christ. They never emphasized on sin, death, heaven or hell, though a mention of it is made. The focus was on the bodily resurrection, the triumph over death and the reconciliation with God. Today's people might think, "What a dumb way to preach!!" especially to people who have seen Jesus Christ being crucified and laid in a tomb in their own place. The truth is Jesus is risen!!
THE TOMB IS EMPTY!!
Let us look at some of the points which will lead us to the same conclusion.
1. The disciples preached in Jerusalem first, where Jesus was crucified, died and kept in the tomb. If Jesus's body would be still there in the tomb, then could they preach to a people who have seen all the things happening right in their midst? Would not someone say "excuse me, but what about the body of Jesus lying in the tomb"? We do not have any documentation within or outside the bible citing any negative statements regarding the resurrection.
2. Enemy attestation is another evidence. The die hard jews, the pharisees never pointed out to the tomb of Jesus to show his body, but said that the disciples stole the body. This is ample proof that the tomb was empty. Note that the statement that "the disciples stole the body" is proved false by even the liberal scholars and skeptics of the Bible. Even now if we consider the circumstances cited for stealing the body, we can also agree that it is false. Roman guards fell asleep and the disciples stole the body!! Are we hearing an oxymoron. Roman guards......asleep?? The guards could be killed for such an act, why would any admit such thing?? Why were they let alone without being punished by the Roman government. Smells fishy! right?
3. If the claims that Bible writers fabricated the events of resurrection, then why would they report that the women were the first to find the empty tomb and to see the risen Lord. The first century jews and the cultures around them, never held women in a high position. Their witness is never considered in the court of Law. Even the Jewish talmud says "It is better to burn the law than to hand it over to a woman", such is the respect of women. No writer could think of presenting this as an evidence for resurrection, unless they were recording the incidents as they occured.
4. Jesus appeared not only to the disciples,but also to many people - approximately 500 was the count given. Skeptics mentioning the event as a hallucination does not work out in a public setting and mass hallucination is never possible. By the time the gospels were written most of the people who saw Jesus were still alive and could refuted to any wrong things written in those scripts.
5. Transformation of the disciples and transformation of skeptic James and the persecutor Saul of tarsus (Paul) are an irrefutable argument. James was the half-brother of Jesus who never accepted His diety during the life time of Jesus, but was transformed when he saw the resurrected Jesus. According to the first century writers like Josephus, Tacitus, Clement of Alexandria and Tertullian James has become the head of the first century church and died a martyr death for the cause. Paul's transformation happened when he saw the resurrected Jesus on the way to Damascus. Paul is an ardent Jew who weilded the sword for his religion, his change and proclamation of Jesus as the risen Christ is a strong evidence as he did not have any earlier affiliation with Jesus.
I appeal to all people who read this to carefully study the resurrection of Jesus Christ and to yield your life to the one who has given up His life to pay a ransom for Yours.John 14:6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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Hope

Monday, May 28, 2007
Hope
Once i was walking with my spiritual mentor, on the roads of Pondicherry, when i told him, "You know something, this Ashram gave me hope", i said it, just because i felt like saying it, but then he was impressed, and when i say that word, i mean it, he was happy,A sadhak who has been a part of Sri Aurombindo mission from a long long time had seen something remarkable in my statement, and i gave a thought!
Maybe i should accept it, that hope changes you in and out, it alters your perception towards the world that you survive in, hope is not just a word or a feeling, but its rather a driving force that could make you live,i myself hate it, exaggerating a word and its meaning, and i know that i am doing just that,But deep in me lies a feeling, that these statements when written here, will change something in the world, and thats my hope!
Every sytems runs, and runs in itself, but the primary importance of all things that are connected with its efficient working is the hope that somewhere, its own dreams are coming true,look at a patriot, an army man, defending the borders of a country, sometimes he must be facing this dilemma in life,What if i am dead today?Who's going to look after my family?Is the effort worth it?Why do i not sit inside the comforts of society, rather than on a snowy peak, where life and death are equiprobable event?I am sure, one things that keep him there and gives him the courage to stand is the hope that somewhere he's making a change to his destiny and the destiny of the country that he's living in,His life would not be wasted on this border, it would be rather cherished and kept in memoriers for a long long time!
But what is this hope that can drive man forever?This hope forever changes, but then how could men stick to the same system for a life?Why does a doctor remain a doctor?An engineer, an engineer?What kind of occupations are those which could give and consolidate all your hopes in one and make you feel satisfied?
All systems have been working on the same thing,Take for instance, the 4 stages of life defined in Hinduism,They ask you to learn for the first 25 years, as a Man's hope maybe will be fulfilled by learning, he's new to this world, his senses must be looking for answers to his curiosity,Then they say is the time of Marriage, a wife, a companionship, a set of children, who could further fulfill the demands of the man,Then is the time of studying different vedas and alland last is about going to Jungle, being one with "Prakriti".it was potentially a more intellectually sound system,then off course the one we survive today!
So thats the parameter, to make a system working, all its components hopes must be fulfilled, maybe only then will a system be working and would remain working forever!
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airtight Monday, May 28, 2007 8:50:41 AM
a firefly..will die if its burning light fails to ignite one day.....thats hope to me...its vital,its significant and its the intriguing substance which makes u live each day...in a yet different way.....hope is a big word...n has its meanings for all...bt lets take the universal acceptance of what it is...."when u run frm ur enemy..hope, is something that will make u run for 100 miles more on an empty road.. even when u are on ur last breath....just to make u believe that there would be someone waiting out there to save u"Juhi

Supremacy in Faiths

Sunday, May 27, 2007
Supremacy in Faiths.........
There are various spiritual way to conduct spirituality but telling other person the way I am conducting is the best way appears is rational way but the onlooker may say that your way is not perfect,but the one who keeps on insisiting without much rational but goes on to the tune that mine is the only way to spirituality ,the others are not rightway.Now spirituality is a process to which we are leading is not subjective and its clear result oriented within time frameis also not possible.Spirituality as it starts from a style of living,way to live a life,method of some rituals to be practiced,for all this process and mechanism the result is not directly proportional.Faith as also holds the society and its wealth thus has both powerful features which makes the best of mind to be at its top slot.Why the supremacy within faith and amongs faith gathers such high volte momentum that entire world poltiics gets entangled in this weblock,in comes to power of boundaries,the cutlure to which peoples are tuned becomes the next compartment to divide the world into various comparmentalised society.From this the race of competetive world begins ,races gets originated,supremacy thus arises in various levels of these compartments as one society grows in its valour or material or on spiritual terms ,then this supreme society wants to eliminate,erode or dilute the others society.Callingl other society to close their place of worship or faith as it has not happened once in Indian history but has been a continous drive by one society onto others,Hindus terminating the budhist monks and pulling out Budhism.Islam prevailing Hindus,Christian fighting with muslim and so on .vice versa.War between countries for border dispute can be within some time frame but the war of cult creed,cultural wars is long drawn battle from the dawn of civilisation to its oblivion.Its dreaded battel which needs to be settled with touch of wisdom and not with emotional intellect or cannot be settled by any number of intellectuals posing as diplomats or statesman of their times. Asmany have failed in all eras of this human history.The faith of supremacy to get connected to SUPREME is only zigzag path in which neither the Supreme gets connected nor the society gets benefited....the path to be with SUPREME is pathless path....where orgy of violence need not play pivotal role.
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Confused Kashmiris

Tuesday, May 22, 2007
confussed kashmiri's
Conflict and Kashmir?s Kashmir has the long history of 5000 years, land which has witnessed rulers of different religions and different ideologies. Kashmir treated as the territory having multiple rulers, from asohka, lalitaditya, Avantivarman, to the advent of Muslim ruler?s sultan Zain-ul-abidin, Mughals, and Afghans, Sikhs and finally Dogras managed to grip their hands on the peace ridden state. Most people believed that it was end to the history which had spend most of its time in bloodshed and slavery ,but unfortunately the coming time for the oppressed Kashmir?s was as harsh as ,when a innocent Kashmir?s was asked to work but without any pay {begari} People of Kashmir always believed that with the passage of time the contentious issue of Kashmir will be solved according to the aspirations and wishes of common Kashmir?s, but from last two decades we have witnessed not a single step forward with regard to the most dynamic issue which has put sub-continents two giant countries on verge of war, on numerous of occasions .With time passing , killing of innocent people, and taking Kashmir on the verge of civil war , not a single politician has come up with a solution accepted to all parties, now the whole issues seems to be losing its weight by just accommodating each others politicians and only fixing dates for next meetings . On one side where state govt. always wait for centre to send packages and most high profile dignitaries waiting to fill their bank lockers with this funding, some make sure that peace never touch even the boundaries of the state because they are paid to keep violence alive and keep this state labeled as terrorist state .And everyone knows that how many events are state sponsored and how many encounters are done just to make sure that talks can only be taken forward when cross boarder terrorisms will be stopped . Thinking of peace in valley has became a unrealistic thing, healing touch, CBM?s and round table have made only news item in Indian a well as local media, And for those which sell and get benefited are watching the scene from outside. Kashmir problem from long time has been discussed and re discussed, but hardly any long lasting solution has been materialized. Round tables, working groups, separatists, people in power, policy makers, and finally decision makers at centre all are showing green pastures to the Kashmir?s, statements like ?we are close to solution? are becoming now routine headings in papers as well as electronic media, but unfortunately every kashmiri feels cheated and disappointed when same issue is discussed in next round table with very little development. On eve of 1st round table most of the Kashmir?s were optimistic and excited, but their dreams never touched the land of reality. People sitting at the level of honor from every side were not able to fulfill the dreams and aspirations of common Kashmir?s, from all corners only one slogan was shouted that we are very near to the solution acceptable to everyone. Things for Kashmir?s are changing drastically, stand of every member is shaking like autumn leaves, dearest ones and unfortunately pioneers of freedom struggle in this part of Kashmir are taking back seat , same is the case with the local leadership, number of occasion visited Delhi attended round table on numerous occasions and yet not able to come up with a solid development, slogans are time and again chanted that we are near to the lasting solution, this shows the credibility of the leadership in peace ridden valley. Autonomy, self rule and other slogans of people within the constitution are used by the other elite class to deceive the people who call themselves most intelligent people. The most unfortunate thing which comes out after all these years is that Kashmir?s are confused about their identity, what to do, how to do and who is going to do it at what time no one knows, every Kashmir is a Azadi supporter on one day next day he attends national conference rally for just 100Rs, same day he shouts pro Pakistan slogans in geelani?s rally and next day he again assembles at muftis rally at lal chowk, same day he shouts aniti Indian slogans at APHC, and adding to all this he next day approaches to government authorities for the sanction of SRO 149. this all shows we are heading towards a disaster which is going to make Kashmir a hostile place to live in, No one really knows what they want Azadi, self rule Autonomy, Accession to India or accession to Pakistan every one wants to fill his pocket what ever the way he uses, whether by attending roundtable are NC or PDP rally that hardly matter for them. No one is bothered for the future of the J&K as a whole every worried about his own identity. I ask one question to every Kashmiri imagine our future after 10 years? SHAHID SHABIR STUDENT KASHMIR UNIVERSITY shahidmerc@gmail.com
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misplaced Apostrophe Tuesday, May 22, 2007 2:33:18 PM
I guess your punctuation mark is wrongly placed. Confused kashimiri's? or confused kashmiris. I think you are trying to address people of kashmir
vijay Tuesday, May 22, 2007 2:57:07 PM
good piece written. reflects the pain and dismay at the state of affairs for an ordinary man. hope (and pray) there is light at the end of the tunnel, not far away.
yaveshrana Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:02:32 PM
Dear Shahid,I have forwarded my comments to u. BREAK FREE OF THE SHACKLES OF YOUR HISTORY. Do not look for answers outside but look inwards. Your history tells me that you were in the habbit of relishing OUTSIDERS and treat them as GODS,whenever you face a problem. This is the undoing of KASHMIR. May be PAKISTAN today, or it was Lord VISHNU against JALDEVA or U went with open arms to ARYANS,TURKS, AFGHANIS, HUNS/ KUSHANS OR even a TIBETAN(RINCHEN) and SHA MIR of SWAT. They all were there, called by you--the people of KASHMIR. This is your history. KNOCK OUT THIS RELIGIOUS HOLD ON YOUR LIVES SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL--Peace will come to u.

Basically all eligions teach the same Truths

Friday, May 18, 2007
Basically all Religions teach the same Truths.
From time immemorial, people were discussing spiritual topics. A fortunate few could gain wisdom through persistant practice and they in turn try to enlighten the people with their wisdom. Hence, we have to day lot of philosophical writings piled up in each religious treditions. If we go through all these, we will understand that the basic principles of these philosophies are one and the same. All religions talk about Unity of mankind, the one god who is common to all but naming the god in different way. Fundamentally there is no difference. Each religious sect evolved over different periods of time to suit the region, the mentality of people at that time. Hence outwardly there bound to be differences in practices which led to diverse opinions and people who were clever, tried to earn a few bucks by highlighting the outward differences but not the underlying Unity of all religions.Hence we must emphasize on the basic Unity and not the outward diversity. Sairam.Saipriya.
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Balaji Friday, May 18, 2007 3:41:23 PM
But right from British rule to today's politicians have divided the people based on the religion. Law differs for different religion. Uniform law is needed.
Balaji Friday, May 18, 2007 3:52:33 PM
But right from British rule to today's politicians have divided the people based on the religion. Law differs for different religion. Uniform law is needed.

Islam = Peace

Friday, May 18, 2007
ISLAM = PEACE
ISLAM is about submitting ur will to ALLAH with peace,The arabic word ISLAM is derived from the root word salam which means PEACE.
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infidel Friday, May 18, 2007 7:40:20 PM
Dear Shoeb, Either you are ignorant about your own islam or you are using taqiyya.The word ISLAM means SUBMISSION and not PEACE.The root word of ISLAM is derived from the infinitive "SALAMA". Similarly the word SALAM which means PEACE is derived from the same infinitive word SALAMA.So it is clear that the word ISLAM is not derived from the word SALAM but both of them are derived from SALAMA.Many other words are derived from SALAMA like SALIMA means "to be saved" and other word which means "stinging of a snake" and the next one "tanning of the leather" etc.So if ISLAM means PEACE because both are from the same root word SALAMA then ISLAM also means tanning of leather and stinging of snake.WHat do you say Shoeb? Don't fall for such misleading informations and learn the truth by yourself. ISLAM means SUBMISSION and not PEACE. Hope it is clear to you now. SALAM.

Science and Quran

Saturday, May 19, 2007
SCIENCE and QUR'AN

THE BASIC PROCESS OF THE FORMATION OF THE UNIVERSEAND THE RESULTING COMPOSITION OF THE WORLDS
By Dr. Maurice Bucaille
The Qur'an presents in two verses a brief synthesis of the phenomena that constituted the basic process of the formation of the Universe. ---sura 21, verse 30: "Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then We clove them asunder and We got every living thing out of the water. Will they not then believe?" ---sura 41, verse 11: God orders the Prophet to speak after inviting him to reflect on the subject of the earth's creation: "Moreover (God) turned to the Heaven when it was smoke and said to it and to the earth..." There then follow the orders to submit. The important things to remember at present are the following: a) The statement of the existence of a gaseous mass with fine particles, for this is how the word 'smoke' (dukan in Arabic) is to be interpreted. Smoke is generally made up of a gaseous substratum, plus, in more or less stable suspension, fine particles that may belong to solid and even liquid states of matter at high or low temperature; b) The reference to a separation process (fatq) of an primary single mass whose elements were initially fused together (ratq). It must be noted that in Arabic 'fatq' is the action of breaking, diffusing, separating, and that 'ratq' is the action of fusing or binding together elements to make a homogenous whole. This concept of the separation of a whole into several parts is noted in other passages of the Book with reference to multiple worlds. The first verse of the first sura in the Qur'an proclaims, after the opening invocation, the following: "In the name of God, the Beneficent, the Merciful", "Praise be to God, Lord of the Worlds." The terms 'worlds' reappears dozens of times in the Qur'an. The Heavens are referred to as multiple as well, not only on account of their plural form, but also because of their symbolic numerical quantity: 7. This number is used 24 times throughout the Qur'an for various numerical quantities. It often carries the meaning of 'many' although we do not know exactly why this meaning of the figure was used. The Greeks and Romans also seem to have used the number 7 to mean an undefined idea of plurality. In the Qur'an, the number 7 refers to the Heavens themselves (samawat). It alone is understood to mean 'Heavens'. The 7 roads of the Heavens are mentioned once: --sura 2, verse 29: "(God) is the One Who created for you all that is on the earth. Moreover He turned to the heaven and fashioned seven heavens with harmony. He is Full of Knowledge of all things." --sura 23, verse 17: "And We have created above you seven paths: We have never been unmindful of the Creation." --sura 67, verse 3: "(God) is the One -who created seven heavens one above another. Thou canst see no fault in the creation of the Beneficent. Turn the vision again! Canst thou see any rift?" --sura 71, verse 15-16: "Did you see how God created seven heavens one above another and made the moon a light therein and made the sun a lamp?" --sura 78, verse 12: "We have built above you seven strong (heavens) and placed a blazing lamp." Here the blazing lamp is the Sun. The commentators on the Qur'an are in agreement on all these verses: the number 7 means no more than plurality. There are therefore many Heavens and Earths, and it comes as no small surprise to the reader of the Qur'an to find that earths such as our own may be found in the Universe, a fact that has not yet been verified by man in our time. Verse 12 of sura 65 does however predict the following: "God is the One Who created seven heavens and of the earth (ard) a similar number. The Command descends among them so that you know that God has power over all things and comprehends all things in His knowledge." Since 7 indicates an indefinite plurality (as we have seen), it is possible to conclude that the Qur'anic text clearly indicates the existence of more than one single Earth, our own Earth (ard) ; there are others like it in the Universe. Another observation which may surprise the Twentieth century reader of the Qur'an is the fact that verses refer to three groups of things created, i.e. --things in the Heavens --things on the Earth --things between the Heavens and the Earth Here are several of these verses: --sura 20, verse 6; "To Him (God) belongs what is in the heavens, on earth, between them and beneath the soil." --sura 25, verse 59: "...the One Who created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six periods." --sura 32, verse 4: "God is the One Who created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six periods." --sura 50, verse 38: "We created the heavens, the earth and what is between them in six periods, and no weariness touched Us." The reference in the Qur'an to 'what is between the Heavens and the Earth' is again to be found in the following verses: sura 21, verse 16; sura 44, verses 7 and 38; sura 78, verse 37; sura 15, verse 85; sura 46, verse 3; sura 43, verse 85. 1) Existence of six periods for the Creation in general. 2) Interlocking of stages in the Creation of the Heavens and the Earth. 3) Creation of the Universe out of an initially unique mass forming a block that subsequently split up. 4) Plurality of the Heavens and of the Earths 5) Existence of an intermediary creation 'between the Heavens and the Earth'.
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Posted By shoeb4islam . Comments (0) Personals

Earth, egg-shaped???

Sunday, May 20, 2007
EARTH, EGG-SHAPED???
Muslims claim all soughts of scientific facts inscribed in QURAN, 1 of sci-fact is verse 079.030 , muslims claim ALLAH intends to say earth is egg shaped, hence quran is from allah(divine), cause Muhammad an illitrate cant have guessed the earth's shape! xxx now, does the verse 079:030 says the earth is egg shaped , or is that a wishful thinking??? heres 3 translations xxx QURAN 079:030?YUSUFALI: And the earth, moreover,hath He extended (to a wide expanse); xxx ?PICKTHAL: And after that He spread the earth, xxx ?SHAKIR: And the earth, He expanded it after that. xxx only a wishful thinker khalifa says so, xxx 079:030 KHALIFA: He made the earth egg-shaped. xxx now, i want readers to analize khalifa's translation on embarassin verses... xxx QURAN 033.050?YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; AND THOSE WHOM THY RIGHT HAND POSSESSES OUT OF THE PRISONERS OF WAR WHOM ALLAH HAS ASSIGNED TO THEE, xxxx ?PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, AND THOSE THY RIGHT HAND POSSESSETH OF THOSE WHOM ALLAH HATH GIVEN THEE AS SPOILS OF WAR, xxxx ?SHAKIR: O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, AND THOSE WHOM YOUR RIGHT HAND POSSESSES OUT OF THOSE WHOM ALLAH HAS GIVEN TO YOU AS PRISONERS OF WAR, xxx Now read KHALIFA'S translation xxxx KHALIFA: O prophet, we made lawful for you your wives to whom you have paid their due dowry, OR WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE AS GRANTED BY GOD, xxxx one more example xxxx QURAN 009.005?YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, THEN FIGHT AND SLAY THE PAGANS wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); xxxx: ?PICKTHAL: Then, when the sacred months have passed, SLAY THE IDOLATARS-wherever ye find them, and take them-(captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. xxx?SHAKIR: So when the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, ........... now see how KHALIFA translates this verse xxx KHALIFA: Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) YOU MAY KILL THE IDOL WORSHIPERS when you encounter them, punish them,and resist every move they make. xxx we can see how khalifa adds/deletes accordin to his wishful thinkin xxx neways, as muslims say QURAN can be best understood in the light of hadiths, xxx ABU DAWUD Book 30, Number 4239:Narrated Thawban:... The Apostle of Allah said:Allah, the Exalted, folded for me the earth, so much so that I saw its easts and wests . The Kingdom of my community will reach as far as the earth was folded for me..... xxx CAN ALLAH, FOLD A EGG-SHAPED EARTH ???
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Posted By rangell lunar Comments (1) Science
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infidel Monday, May 21, 2007 7:15:59 AM
Great one buddy. Even if we consider that earth is EGG SHAPED as per crap quran, that is also not true. Our earth is spherical in shape, not egg shaped. Its more like a ball than an egg. But all knowing allah didn't know that. LOL. And quran is error free (for zombies, of course) because since allah said earth is egg shaped hence it is egg shaped. LOL. What a crap quran is.