Saturday, August 18, 2007

Islamic Paradise Muslims cannot afford to miss!


Friday, August 17, 2007
By: Mohammad AsgharIn the Quran, Allah has said:9:72: “Allah hath promised men and women, Gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good Pleasure of Allah: that is the supreme felicity.” Through the above declaration, Allah has assured the Muslim men and women that on the Day of Judgment they will enter the Gardens – the Gardens of Bliss (Jannat or Jannat un Na’im[1] in Arabic) - under which rivers constantly flow, if they performed righteous deeds during their stay on earth. But apart from enjoying the good Pleasure of Allah, He has not said in this statement which other felicities men and women will enjoy in the Gardens after they entered it on the Day of Judgment. Neither has Allah said why He has built beautiful mansions, when their existence in the Gardens is unnecessary, unless it was His intention to provide the dwellers of the Gardens with some sort of privacy in their sexual orgies.In our understanding, the Day of Judgment has already occurred. Allah has tried the humans and the Jinns and consigned the guilty ones to the fire of Hell. Notable among the humans, who entered the Hell on this Day, were the wives of prophets Noah and Lut. [2] To men, Allah has promised virgin Hurs with special qualities. They will never grow old, nor will their beauty ever wither away. They are stunningly beautiful; their skin unimaginably smooth with egg-shaped, big, [3] beautiful, and lustrous eyes[4] -pitch black in color - that resemble those of a doe, adore their faces. They are endowed with another remarkable quality: after each of their sexual encounters with the men Allah assigns them to (or, are they the common property of all the men of the Gardens?), they once again become virgins, thereby ensuring perpetual and inexhaustible pleasure to their men.Some Muslim scholars rule out carnal sex in the Gardens. They say that the word “Hur,” as it has appeared in verse 52:20 and others, is much misunderstood and misinterpreted. Grammatically, it is not feminine in form, and the companionship of Hurs will be for all in the Gardens – men and women (as they were in their earthly life), who will retain their personality but not their carnal attributes. [5] We see a point in the above contention of the Muslim scholars: since the Hurs are not females, but males, how can the Muslim men have sex with them? But does the Quran actually tell this to its adherents? And are all the Hurs of the Gardens male? Consideration of the following narratives, culled from the Quran, will help us find answers to our questions: 1. In respect to the companions that Allah provides to the inhabitants of the Gardens, the Quran says:“And beside them will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty). As if they were (delicate) eggs closely guarded.” [6] The women with big eyes spoken of in the verse are the Hurs. The great Imam Bukhari says, “Hoors (beauties of heaven) will be full-breasted and free from menstruation.” [7] These prove that the Muslim scholars’ claim on the gender of the Hur is incorrect. They would, however, be right if the translation of the verse, quoted above, is proven wrong. 2. The Quran again says:“So; and We shall join them to fair women with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes.” [8] Allah joins (or weds) fair women with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes with men; the word “women” in the verse clearly referring to the Hurs. Obviously, Allah cannot join male Hurs in marriage with the male inhabitants of the Gardens. It will, of course, be a different matter, if it is agreed that Allah approves and performs in the Gardens same sex marriages!Our above observations lead us to ask: if carnal sex has no place in the Gardens, then why Allah should bother to join the Hurs in marriage with the Gardens’ inhabitants? Why He should describe the beauty and attractiveness of the Hurs, if their only purpose is to give company to the people they are assigned to? 3. The Quran further says: “And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith, - to them shall we join their families: nor shall we deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.” [9] Clearly, Allah does not admit all the Muslims to the Gardens. Only the true believers find admission to them to live therein with their family members, provided He also finds them true in their faith. This being the situation, will it not be interesting to find out as to why Allah provides the inhabitants of the Gardens with the companionship of the Hurs, when they have their own family members to give them company? There is only one answer to all the questions we have asked above: Hurs’ primary duty is to provide sexual gratifications to the male inhabitants of the Gardens. Apart from this, they have no other duty or function to perform in the Gardens. But are there also male Hurs in the Gardens and if Allah joins them in marriage with the female inhabitants of the Gardens? We do not think so, despite the fact that the word “Hur” is in masculine form, the reasons for it being: (1) The Quran is silent on it and (2) their presence in the Gardens is unnecessary. In this connection, the Quran says: (1). “If any one does a righteous deed, it ensures to the benefit of his own soul: if he does evil, it works against (his own soul). In the end will ye (all) be brought back to your Lord.” [10] (2). “Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing.” [11]A storied hadith of Imam Bukhari says: “Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." [12] We draw following conclusions from the quoted materials:1. The number of the women who have entered the Gardens is small for the reasons mentioned in the hadith. Again, many of them have their pious and righteous husbands with them. Such women do not and cannot depend on the male Hurs to meet their sexual needs. 2. The number of men who have entered the Gardens is larger than their female residents. Consequently, these men have already been facing shortages of women in the Gardens, when desiring to have human touch in their sexual intercourse. These reasons make the presence of the male Hurs in the Gardens redundant. On the other hand, the presence of a large number of men and a small number of women in the Gardens makes their presence logical, as Allah, who is duty-bound to meet men’s sexual needs, cannot fulfill His duty without having a large number of female Hurs in the Gardens. It is His sense of duty or obligation towards those men of the Gardens who do not like women or Hurs that has led Him to create and place in the Gardens youths (gilmaan in the Quranic parlance[13] ) of perpetual freshness, as ‘rewards for them and their endeavors,’ [14] to serve their sexual needs. Allah plies these youths with pure and holy wine[15] so that they can provide maximum pleasure to their men-clients.The Quran, which is addressed to men and which shows them the right Way, [16] tells us that Allah also gives His righteous guests wine from an ever-flowing fountain after mixing it with kafur (camphor). [17] In expression of their excitement, they exchange their wine-filled goblets of silver [18] with each other. Finding their excitement not to His entire satisfaction, Allah adds Zanjabil, which He collects from a fountain called Salsabil [19] to their wine in order to make them drunk – a condition without achieving which, they cannot perform their sexual acts in the manner He wants them to perform. Without telling us in which of the seven Gardens this fountain is located, Allah has made it clear that the drinkers of Zanzabil do not suffer from intoxication or hangovers. [20] But in the scenarios we drawn above, where do the female residents of the Gardens fit in? Who do they turn to for meeting their sexual needs, if their husbands refuse to oblige them? Do or will men have any reason for copulating with them, when they have at their disposal an abundant number of virgin and exceptionally beautiful Hurs for the purpose? Some Muslim scholars have tried to answer our questions by telling us that Allah has created the gilmaans – the pre-pubescent youths - and placed them in the Gardens to provide sexual pleasures to His female guests. The Quran does not, however, support their claim, as it clearly indicates that they are in the Gardens only to serve the men, wearing bracelets of silver – the trinkets that only effeminate men and youths wear on their hands. [21] It would be a different matter, if Allah permits the women to rape these youths to satisfy their sexual hunger. If Allah does not permit the women to rape the youths, then the women must be passing their days, sighing and tossing their bodies around in pain and agony – a condition that the sight of men having sex with Hurs before their eyes creates in them. Or, they may be indulging in lesbian acts to meet the demands of their bodies. Perhaps, Allah grants them this privilege, as they had patiently avoided sexual pleasures, and other desires, in their earthly lives. [22] The Gardens’ residents need not do anything in their new homes. They are free from all the responsibilities and duties they used to care for on earth. Here, they do not need to pray to Allah, nor do they have to worry about sins. A brief description here of the Gardens and the amenities they contain will help us drive home our point of view. Allah created the seven Gardens at the same time He was creating the Universe, which includes the seven skies. On them are located all the Gardens. Each Garden’s width is equivalent to the entire width of the sky it is located on, as well as the width of the earth. [23] Muhammad had seen all of them with his own eyes during the time he was paying a visit to Allah, whose Throne and Residences are presumably located in the Garden that is located on the seventh sky. All the Gardens have many security gates, [24] manned by the angels. All of them have rivers[25] flowing with milk and honey [26] and pure and crystal clear water and delicious wine, [27] the taste of all of which never changes. The inhabitants of the Gardens drink them from the goblets of gold. [28] Tall and green trees not only bear bunches of delectable fruits [29] and add beauty to the Gardens, they also provide protection to their inhabitants from the non-existent sun’s heat. Beneath them are laid out comfortable but throne-like benches for the Gardens’ effeminate inhabitants, adorned with bracelets of gold, green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade, [30] to recline on, and to conduct their social intercourse among themselves. [31] Allocation of space in the Gardens by Allah is, however, subject to the ranks He grants to the Muslims, keeping in His mind their performance on earth. [32] The ranks are: (1) the prophets and apostles who taught and led mankind; (2) the sincere devotees of Truth, who supported the Cause in their person and with all their resources; (3) the Martyrs and Witnesses who suffered and served the Cause and (4) the righteous people generally, those who led ordinary lives, but always with righteous aims.The higher the rank the better accommodation and treatments its holders receive in the Gardens. For instance, the residents of the higher Garden, which is also known as the Paradise , drink their wine from Golden goblets; the residents of the lower ones drink theirs from the silver ones. [33] Despite their division into four categories, all the inhabitants of the Gardens form one equal Brotherhood of Peace, one Society of Concord. [34] This eliminates the sense of jealousy, ill-will and competition from them, thus making their lives most peaceful and dignified.Other accounts also confirm the existence of the Gardens: all the prophets, except Muhammad, the last Prophet on earth, have been living in it for millions of years. Immediately after his burial in the grounds of Medina , Muhammad went into prostration with a vow not to stand up until Allah forgave all of his followers on the Day of Judgment. He also vowed not to enter the Garden without making sure that all of his followers will also find their berths in it. If we now open up his tomb in Medina , we will find it empty. As the Day of Judgment has already taken place, Muhammad abandoned his tomb and has taken up residence with Allah in the Garden that is located on the seventh sky. Living under Allah’s constant watch, he has been enjoying his life to the hilt. Whether his wives have been able to join him in his celestial home is not known to us. Another apostle who has been enjoying Allah’s great hospitability before Muhammad is Jesus Christ. We do not know if he has broken his vow of celibacy and placed himself on the hard bosoms of the Hurs. We also do not know on which sky his Garden is located, nor is known to us in which of the seven Gardens all the martyrs of Islam and the good and the righteous people of the old [35] have found their accommodations.Allah carefully controls the temperature of all the Gardens. They are, therefore, neither too cold, nor too hot. [36] The vagaries of nature, which we confront on earth, do not reach them. They are free from rain, thunderstorm, tornados, snowing and all other bad climatic effects. Because of the Gardens’ pleasant and safe climatic conditions, as we have noted above, almost all of its inhabitants prefer to live in their open space. Toilet and shower facilities do not, and cannot, exist in the Gardens. The ground of the gardens on which Allah lives and treads are holy and sacred. In order, therefore, to maintain their sanctity humans do neither defecate nor do they urinate on them. Allah freezes up their wastes in their bodies. All the residents of the Gardens live in them without any tension or concern for their needs, health and life. [37] Everything they need come to them at the expression of their wish. If a resident, for instance, wishes to eat a particular fruit, and he communicates his wish to Allah through a means of communication that is available only in the Gardens of Bliss, [38] Allah causes a tree to spring up in front of him, if it does not already exist, bearing ripe and delicious fruit. The good resident of the Garden does not need to extend or move his hands to pluck the fruit; a simple gesture of his eye brings it down to his silver plate. [39] Whether the fruit places itself into his mouth is again not known to us. When he wishes to eat the meat of a rare fowl, [40] from no where it lands on the barbeque and cooks itself into a delicious meat. Its uneaten portion becomes a full bird and then it flies away, waiting to fulfill at no notice the wish of another honored guest of the Gardens. [41] Having nothing to do; the ambience they live in; the food they eat and the drink they intake make the inhabitants of the Gardens yearn for only one thing and that is sex. It occupies their minds all the times. Taking rest and sleeping were for the earthly mortals; and after they entered the Gardens, these become the matters of the past. Allah’s concept of the homosexual bliss that that His beloved followers are supposed to enjoy in their next life prompted Abdel Hamid Kisk, a blind preacher of Egypt, to tell his audience that “Muslims who entered paradise would enjoy eternal erections and the company of young boys draped in earrings and necklaces.” Some of the Ulemas, the religious scholars at the al-Azhar University of Cairo , disagreed. Yes, they said, men in the Gardens have erections, but merely protracted, but not perpetual. [42] The scholars have not ruled out pederasty in the Gardens. We believe men’ penises become erect immediately after each of their copulations with the boys or the Hurs.. Since men and women live in the Gardens’ open space, all of their sexual activities take place before, and in the presence of, most of their inhabitants. Those among them, who feel shy in performing sex in the open, retire to one of the many mansions Allah has built in the Gardens and they indulge in their wild fantasies to their hearts’ content, without being seen or disturbed by their other compatriots. Men with protracted erections and engaging themselves in sex present a scene worth watching: most of them, if not all, remain locked, like the dogs, with the Hurs and the young boys for a protracted period of time. Lying on the top of the Hurs (this position changes, on the basis of the men’s fancy), and riding the boys from their back, they create a scene that no human has seen before in his lifetime. In a sentence, it is a mass orgyAllah loves orgy, but it does not cause arousal to His own sexual desires, as He is impotent. He, however, visits His honored guests from time to time to make sure they have been doing fine in the Gardens. He helps them with guidance where they need it in order to make their stay in them most pleasurable. After all, this is what He had promised them all along. Since pious Muslim men - and their number is huge - avoided excessive and entertaining sex in their ephemeral lives, the sight of most of their brethren engaging themselves, before their eyes, in group sex will not appear to them like an orgy. Instead, it would appear to them as being another pious act in the Gardens; its methodology, composition of partners and duration having been determined by none, but Allah Himself.Convinced fully that Allah, if He exists, could not have said or described all the licentious acts that the Muslims perform in the Gardens, we believe these statements came from the mouth of Muhammad, himself a licentious and sexually perverted man. All the times, he used Allah as an instrument for making his nonsensical and perverted statements efficacious. Where he felt necessary, he intertwined Allah’s existence with that of his own. Those statements, which have Allah and Muhammad jointly proclaiming certain orders or decrees [43] prove our point. Additionally, we have a Quranic verse that proves beyond any doubt that in Muhammad’s mind, he was Allah, and that all the humans, particularly the Muslims, are his slaves.We shall have more to say on this matter later. In the mean time, we assert that women in the Gardens receive no help from Allah and they fend for themselves. They fulfill their sexual desires either through masturbation or by engaging themselves in lesbian acts. That is what the kind and merciful Allah has ordained for them. He neglected them on earth; He neglects them in the Gardens as well. References:________________________________________[1] The Quran; 5:68.[2] Cf. The Quran; 66:10. [3] The Quran; 37:48 & 49. [4] The Quran; 52:20.[5] Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Quran; vol. 2, pp. 1467-8.[6] The Quran; 37:48 & 49. [7] Beginning of Creation: 2:225. [8] The Quran; 44:54. [9] The Quran; 52:21. [10] 45:15. [11] 43:70.[12] Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28. [13] The Quran; 52:24.[14] The Quran; 76:22.[15] The Quran; 76:21.[16] Cf. The Quran; 76:3 for instance. [17] The Quran; 76.5. The word ‘righteous’ in the verse is superfluous, as only the righteous will enter the Gardens. [18] The Quran; 76:16.[19] The Quran; 76:17 & 18.[20] The Quran; 76:19.[21] Cf. The Quran; 43:18.[22] Cf. The Quran; 76:12. [23] The Quran; 3:133. [24] The Quran; 13:23.[25] The Quran; 54:54 et al. [26] The Quran; 47:15.[27] Cf. The Quran; 76:5 et al. [28] The Quran; 43:71.[29] The Quran; 76:14[30] The Quran; 18:31[31] The Quran; 76:7.[32] Cf. The Quran; 52:20. [33] Cf. The Quran; 76; 16.[34] Cf. Abdullah Yusuf Ali; The Holy Quran, vol. 2, p. 1467. [35] Cf. The Quran; 56:13 & 14. [36] The Quran; 76:13.[37] The Quran; 52:19.[38] The Quran; 56:12. [39] Inference drawn from 76:14.[40] The Quran; 56:21.[41] The Quran; 52:22. This is the explanation many Muslim commentators give to it. [42] Judith Miller, God Has Ninety-nine Names, p. 26.[43] The Quran; 33:36 et al.----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Sunday, August 5, 2007

Ajmal, Answer this if you can - 4


Saturday, August 4, 2007
This is in continuation of my replies to Ajmal’s post:
http://www.ndtvblogs.com/views/viewcomments.asp?gl_guid=&q_blogid=17257&blogname=rebuttals
This is in continuation of my replies to Ajmal’s post:
http://www.ndtvblogs.com/views/viewcomments.asp?gl_guid=&q_blogid=17257&blogname=rebuttals
Ajaml wrote:
IT IS YOU WHO ARE WASTING YOUR TIME BY COPYING FROM YOUR FATHER(S) SITE LIKE SINNA AND SHAMOUN AND AVIJIT ROY AND ISLAM-WATCH etc.
AGAIN AND AGAIN THEIR LIES ARE EXPOSED ,EVEN AFTER THAT THEY DO NOT STOP.
My Response:
Truly showing your Islamic upbringing. TO run after parents is common in muslim scums like you. Very well display of Islamic family value. Keep it up, ajaml, so that everybody can know about your family. LOL.
Ajaml Wrote:
LEAVING MANY OTHERS .WHAT DOES THE STATEMENT "THIS ARTICLE ACTUALY BELONGS TO" MEAN??
EVEN AFTER THAT YOU CLAIM THAT YOU HAVE NOT COPY PASTED.IT PROVES EITHER OF THE TWO TJINGS
-->YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY LYING
-->YOU HAVE COPIED IT FROM A THIRD PARTY SITE AND EVEN DID NOT BOTHERED TO SEE ,WHAT WAS WRITTEN AT IT'S LAST LINE.
My response:
My dear fool ajmal, your madarassa never told you what is spam, did it? NO.
Only thing you can do is mud slinging. First understand the difference between SPAM and credit to original author than only you will come to know what “"THIS ARTICLE ACTUALY BELONGS TO" MEANS?? OK, Clown.
Accusation 1: None of you muscums are able to prove that I am lying, not even once. But We infidels have proved a million times that your pedo MO lied to you for 1400 years and still today in 21st century you islamobots are trapped in those lies. Wake up now, (but you won’t as you are a true muslim).
Accusation 2: Prove at least once that I did not read the article before I post it. On the contrary, I have proved many a times that you blindly copy pasted without reading the article. For your kind information, you apologized to me and all the readers about your “scientific” conclusion that many scientists converted to islam as you claimed foolishly. Also, don’t forget that I exposed your and your sites lies by showing that how your article’s referred links didn’t work whereas mine worked in a click. That shows your Hippocratic nature which never surprised me as you are a true muslim (read true zombie).
Ajaml wrote:
INFI,PLEASE ANSWER THIS,IF WAS NOT A MIRACLE THEN WHY DID Von-Frisch received the Nobel Prize in 1973 for his research on the behaviour and communication of the bees.
WHY ?? FOR TELLING THE WORLD SO COMMON THING???


My response:
I can’t stop laughing at your idiocy, ajaml. You have been brainwashed at such an extent that you can’t see the obvious. Not a problem let me explain it one more time to you so that you can see the absurdities of your crap quran and see the light of humanity.
Did your “ALL KNOWING ALLAH AND PEDO MO” ever tell about the behavior of bees?
A BIG NO.
Read the verses before you go to KAFIR scientist’s discovery.
Your pedo MO could tell only this:
016.068 YUSUFALI: And thy Lord taught the Bee to build its cells in hills, on trees, and in (men's) habitations;
Have trust on your own eye sight and your brain (I know that it is a little circumcised one, but still it can realise) BEE”S CELLS IN HILLS, ON TREES AND IN MEN’S HABITATIONS, can’t it? Each and everybody can see that bees’ cells are IN HILLS, ON TREES AND IN MEN’S HABITATIONS. Can’t you see this? People who lived on this earth thousands of years before your PEDO MO knew that bees make their cells in these places. Is it a miracle to say this? Only brain dead muslims claim a miracle in it.
WHERE IS THE BEHAVIOR AND COMMUNICATION OF BEES IN THIS VERSE, AJMAL?
IF YOU FIND ONE, PLEASE TELL US KAFIRS ABOUT THAT SO THAT WE CAN EMBRACE ISLAM AS TRUE RELIGION, YOU FOOL.
Infidel WROTE:
There issues from within their bodies a drink of varying colours, wherein is healing for men. [Al-Quran 16:69]
Hey ajmal, do you see word BELLY in the above verse? I don’t see BELLY but I do see BODIES.
Does author understand the difference between BELLY and BODY?
Ajaml wrote:
HEY FOOL!! NOW YOU ARE PROVING THAT YOU ARE BRAIN DEAD.
WHEN DID I MENTIONED THE WORD BELY IN MY BLOG???
My response:
Ajaml, you proved one more time that you are a LIAR. YOU REMOVED YOUR BLOG AND NOW YOU ASK ME WHERE YOU HAVE WRITTEN “BELLY”?
Lies can never win and so as you being a PROVEN LIAR. You can find it on my dear friend VENU’s blogspot. Also we can find it on any crap Islamic website, as all of them copy paste from each other. Just to prove that you are a liar, let us see these sites:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/honey_healing.htm
[016:069] Feed, moreover, on every kind of fruit, and walk the beaten paths of thy Lord." From its BELLY cometh forth a fluid of varying hues, which yieldeth medicine to man. Verily in this is a sign for those who consider.
http://emuslim.com/QuranandScience/Zoology.asp
The bee assimilates juices of various kinds of flowers and fruit and forms within its body the honey, which it stores in its cells of wax. Only a couple of centuries ago man came to know that honey comes from the BELLY of the bee. This fact was mentioned in the Qur’aan 1,400 years ago in the following verse:
http://www.honeyo.com/honeyhealing.shtml
The bee assimilates juices of various kinds of flowers and fruit and forms within its body the honey, which it stores in its cells of wax. Only a couple of centuries ago man came to know that honey comes from the BELLY of the bee. This fact was mentioned in the QUR'AN 1,400 years ago in the following verse:
Where it is mentioned in Crap quran 1400 years ago, Ajmal? Show us all the miracle of your pedo MO>
The verse says: 016.069 YUSUFALI: Then to eat of all the produce (of the earth), and find with skill the spacious paths of its Lord: there issues from within their BODIES a drink of varying colours, wherein is healing for men: verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought.
Your Islamic morons are lying like you, ajmal. You all cretins have been exposed one more time.
Ajmal wrote:
MY EMPHASIS WAS ON THE HONEY NOT THE BELLY. EVEN THOUGH THE BELLY IS PART OF THE BODY AND THUS QURAAN IS NOT WRONG.
FOR EXAMPLE IF I ABUY A PEN FROM ABC STORES IN XYZ COLONY OF PATNA AND IF I SAY THAT I HAVE BOUGHT IT FROM BIHAR OR PATNA , WILL I BE WRONG???
SIMILARLLY THE QURAAN IS ALSO NOT WRONG.
EVEN IF THE WORD BELLY WOULD HAVE BEEN MENTIONED THEN YOU WOULD HAVE COME UP WITH ARGUMENTS THAT WHERE IS PHARYNGEAL GLANDS MENTIONED??
My response:
So you accept that your Islamic scholars were lying. Good for you.
Even if you were emphasizing on Honey and not BELLY, what’s the point there? People were knowing thousands of years before pedo MO that honey comes out from Bees body and can be used for healing purpose. What is the miracle in this verse????????????
Please explain it to we kafirs Please, please ajaml, show us your Islamic wisdom, and explain to us what is miraculous in this verse if your emphasized on HONEY and NOT BELLY.
Belly is a part of body, right. All your ALL KNOWING ALLAH could do is to say the very well known and established fact that honey comes out of bee’s body, that’s it? So what is miracle in it? Any lay man can say that. Don’t forget that your article was about MIRACLES IN CRAP QURAN and you were trying to prove (unsuccessfully though) that crap quran is full of miracles and all today’s scientific recoveries were told in crap quran 1400 years ago. We are looking for miracles in crap quran and not for well known established facts of centuries ago of pedo MO’s revelation.
Ajmal wrote: FOR EXAMPLE IF I ABUY A PEN FROM ABC STORES IN XYZ COLONY OF PATNA AND IF I SAY THAT I HAVE BOUGHT IT FROM BIHAR OR PATNA , WILL I BE WRONG???
My response:
You will be wrong if you say that you bought it from bihar and you claim that particular ABC store was mentioned and that is a MIRACLE. Got it, you zombie.
Ajaml wrote:
HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT KHALID ZAHEER TILL NOW, BUT THE BROTHERS OF ISLAM MUST KNOW THAT JAVED GHAMIDI IS AN FAKE SCHOLAR OF ISLAM.A VOTING IS GOING ON FOR THIS IN ZAKIR BHAI'S ORKUT CLUB.
My response:
Please visit Khalidzaheer.com to know about this cretin. Also, since javed ghamidi is a moderate (??) muslim scholar, does not make him fake as per ZAkir naik. He is one of the most renouned scholars of piggistan (read Pakistan). He is quoting your same crap quran and hadiths. As Naik is having his own version of islam, javed is having his own, what’s wrong in it as crap quran is most UNCLEAR, UNEASY AND NON-PLAIN book (though it claims to be most clear, plain and easy to understand, LOL) which is full of errors , absurdities, fallacies and fairy tales. Anybody can have his own version. You can try your as well. LOL.
Infidel WROTE :
To add, Ali Sina's site and other similar sites are banned in most islamic countries, because they are afraid of that people will renounce islam after visiting these sites
Ajaml wrote:
IS KHABAR MEIN KITNI SACCHAI HAI ,PATA NAHI. KYUN KI TUM NE SINNA KE SITE KO CHOR KAR DOOSRA REFERENCE BHI TO NAHI DIYA HAI. IS FAKE LIAR KI BAAT PAR KITNA AUR KAISE BHAROSA KARNA CHAHIYE MUJHE PATA HAI. MAGAR PHIR BHI AGAR KOI TUMHAARE GHAR MEIN GHUS KAR TUMHAARI MA BEHAN KO GALI DEGA,TO KYA TUM USE KISS KAROGE YA GALE LAGAOGE YA LAAT MAAR KARGHAR SE BAHAR KAR DOGE.ISI TARAH MUSLIM ,JO KI ISLAM,ALLAH AUR PROPHET MUHAMMAD(S.A.W) SE BE INTAHA PYAR KARTE HAIN ,US KE SITE KO APNE GHAR SE NIKAL DIYA HOGA.
My response:
Don’t show your 10 standard madrassa knowledge here again and again. Ask your mulla at madarassa to contact piggistan and other cretin counties to know the truth. Hiding your head in sand will not hide the truth. Since you don’t know will not make the truth wrong.
Islam is an evil cult and people know the truth about it, be it piggistan or any other piggi country. They are leaving islam in millions all around the world. So come out of your ignorance and search by yourself.
Islam is not at all a religion leave alone the only true religion. It should be criticized and eradicated once and for ever. The countdown of fall of islam has began and no muslim bigot can stop it as it fails miserably in rationality and logical arena. Hence, don’t use tu quoque and face the reality. Islam is not above the criticism and by banning few sites that are showing the true evil nature of islam will not stop its demise, may be it can delay the process of eradication of islam for a while but can never stop it. I personally know many apostates from piggistan who have seen the light of humanity and had left islam forever. You will be the one ajmal, for sure, like MUNEER, who is still learning your evil cult islam to find out something good out of it.
Ajaml wrote:
EVEN SAM SHAMOUN USED TO SPEAK THE SAME THINGS BEFORE HE WAS BADLY HUMILIATED BY DOCTOR ZAKIR NAIK IN AN OPEN DEBATE AND EVEN ACCEPTED THAT HIS BIBLE IS CORRUPT.
My response:
Does bible being corrupt prove that quran is not corrupt? What an Islamic logic?????
Ajaml wrote:
Why does ali sinna not want to have a open public debate that the audience can hear.
Why does he wants written debate. this is the reason zakir bhai doesnot want to debate him.
Even ali sina doesnot give a single scientific reference on his site.
That was quite clear when I came up with rebuttals to his site.
Last part is still to come.i donot have enough time .other wise it would have come quite earlier.
My response:
What type of truth is this which can not be shown in a written debate? Why Islamic truth needs the opponent to be in public so that he can be assassinated? Zakir can not and will not debate Ali sina in his life. Why? Because all zakir’s lies will be exposed to millions of zombies and kafirs. ASK your “FATHER” zakir to have a written debate with Ali sina if he has guts and has confidence that islam is the truth. TRY HARD YOU MORON< AS YOUR FATHER ZAKIR WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO DARE TO DEBATE ALI SINA.
For your information, Ali sina has declared recently that even if a single charge of him against your pedo MO is refuted, he will go for a public debate, with his life on stake. NOW ASK YOUR FATHER ZAKIR TO REFUTE A SINGLE CLAIM OF ALI ABOUT PEDO MO AND INVITE HIM FOR A PUBLIC DEBATE FOR HIS ASSASSINATION. DOES YOUR CLOWN ZAKIR HAS THAT GUT? NO. HE WILL NEVER EVEN TRY TO DO THAT. AND DON’T FORGET NONE OF THE CRETINS COULD REFUTE A SINGLE CHARGE OF ALI.
Leave alone Ali, none of you muscums could reply to a single question of mine on this blogsphere in a rational and logical way. Try it zombie, try your best.
Ajmal wrote:
After READING THE ARTICLES IT BECOMES QUITE CLEAR WHOSE SITE IS CRAP. ALI SINNA HIMSELF WRITES THAT HE WANTS TO HAVE WRITTEN DEBATE, SO THEY POST ARTICLES ON THEIR SITES.BUT WHY DOES NOT HE COME UP WITH REBUTAALS AND COUNTER REBUTTALS. IT IS SO BECAUSE HE HAS NO ANSWERS WHEN HIS LIES ARE EXPOSED.
IT CAN BE A FORM OF WRITTEN DEBATE.
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT FAITHFREEDOM.ORG IS SINA'S (CRAP) SITE AND ANSWERING-CHRISTIANITY.COM REFUTES THE LIES.
EVEN SHAMOUN COMES UP WITH REBUTTALS AND COUNTER REBUTTALS TO ANSWERING CHRISTIANITY TEAM.
ALI SINA'S SITE TOO IS UPDATED VERY REGULARLY.THEN WHY DOES E NOT COME UP WITH COUNTER REBUTTALS.????
My response:
Dear cretin, ajaml. Please don’t put more pressure on your little circumcised brain, as it can’t take more loads. Your allah has sealed your brain so that you cannot think more. Please favor yourself and don’t think much as it gives us such a laugh that we cannot stop laughing at your idiocy. Please please refrain yourself from reasoning. A very sincere advice from a kafir.
Ali sina wants a written debate and hence cretins are posting on their own sites. What the hell of an argument is this?? Only muscum brain can think of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For your little Islamic brain, take this example. For a cricket TEST match, India is in the playground say at Mumbai to play as scheduled and England is NET PRACTICING at London, will you call it a TEST MATCH? SURELY, by your analogy, this is not only a TEST MATCH but England has won the test match as Indian team is at playground and waiting for England team to come out and play. But since England team is net practicing at London and Indian team has not gone to beat them into their net practice, England is surely a winner as per Islamic logic. What an idiot you are, ajaml!!!!!!!!!!!
Posting at crap Islamic sites without any scientific reference (which I have proved many a times) is not a written debate. BTW, you can find loads and loads of scientific references on Ali’s site. For sure they are proving your crap quran wrong all the times and hence muscums don’t consider them HALAL.
INFIDEL WROTE:
On this blogsphere also, no muslim could answer even a single question asked to them in a logical/rational manner, refutation is far away.
Ajaml wrote:
DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS BLOG SPHERE. BUT YOU ARE SUCH A STUBBORN AND BRAIN DEAD FELLOW THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO LEARN THE TRUTH, EVEN WHEN SOME ONE COMES TO TEACH YOU.
AT SEVERAL PLACES YOU HAVE BEEN REFUTED.AGAIN A LIE!!
My response:
First know about this blogsphere as you are posting your article here. Playing ignorant and hiding your head hard in sand will not change the truth.
I tried to learn the truth along with LEARNER and HUMAN on the same blogsphere and finally both of them saw the truth of humanity and probably left islam for ever. MUNEER also tried the same, which eventually ended up in cursing and swearing and finally he is learning your crap islam from ABC. He promised to come back in 6 months (which has already passed by now) but hopefully he also saw the falsehood of islam and joined the humanity.
There were many more cretins who tried their best to defend the indefensible falsehood of islam but run away with their tail between their legs. My buddy Irshad hanged up for a while, but it seems that he has also seen the truth of humanity and hence not posting articles about “greatness of islam” anymore.
Show a single place where I have been refuted, leave alone SEVERAL PLACES. By doing this you will not only prove that I am a LIAR but also you will save yourself being called as PROVEN LIAR (AS I have proved many times and you have apologized for that as well).
Come out of your ignorant Islamic world and face the truth.
Grow up ajmal, your whole life is in front of you. I am trying to help you to come out of this cult “islam” even though you are not sparing a single chance to insult me and my family. Why I am doing this, to save you and myself from evil of islam and its outcomes. OPEN YOUR EYES< AJMAL< NONE OF THE CRETINS HAVE EVEN ABLE TO REFUTE ALI SINA and none on this blogsphere is able to refute me. ACCEPT THE TRUTH THAT ISLAM IS A HOAX AND FREE YOURSELF FROM THE SHAKELS OF ISLAM.
Ajmal wrote:
IN ONE OF MY BLOG EARLIER I HAD GIVE THE RFERENCE TO DOWNLOAD THE AUDIO DEBATE WHERE SINA WAS BADLY DEFEATED. THE TOPIC WAS ALMOST THE SAME AS TOLD BY YOU OF THE DEBATE WITH GHAMIDI.
I WILL AGAIN LOVE TO GIVE YOU THE LINK:
Ali Sina caught in a atrocious LIE.
www.ExamineTheTruth.com
My response:
This is another lie by muscums. Ali sina has never been involved in any such audio debate. He is only involved in written debates so that braindead zombies like you cannot kill him. What a fool you are, ajmal?
Infidel WROTE:
3) And of everything We have created pairs. [Al-Quran 51:49]
Again this is not true. There are asexual reproducing organisms, like bacteria, fern, fungi imperfecti etc.
Obviously, pedo MO was unaware of them but how could all knowing allah missed that
Ajaml wrote::
THE REPLY IS THERE IN MY BLOG ON QURAAN . YOU WILL HAVE TO READ IT SO PATIENTLY.
EVEN IF YOU LIKE I WILL COME UP IN DETAILS IN MY NEXT BLOG INSHA ALLAH.
My response:
Try hard, muslim. Give your best shot. I am waiting. Your said article is again a crap one and does not say anything to refute my claims. You, yourself read it “PATIENTLY” and FULLY to understand properly how the author is trying to fool you (but you are a proven fool, so no point here).
Infidel WROTE:
Ayesha and Pedophile MO: I have refuted you in very humiliating manner in my article MO-Part 2 and MO-Part 2 Contd. But you shamelessly posted them back. I don’t know, when will you understand the fact that MO was a pedophile who ruined ayesha’s childhood and of hundreds of thousands of such girls in last 1400 centuries?
Ajaml wrote:
YOUR AND YOUR FATHER (S) CALAIM HAVE BEEN REFUTED IN A VERY HUMILIATING MANNER IN MY BLOG OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD.
STILL IN THE NEAR FUTURE IF I GET TIME I WILL BE COMING WITH SPECIAL REBUTTALS TO YOU.
YOU HAVE ANSWERED NONE OF THE QUESTIONS IN YOUR BLOG.LEAVE OTHERS ANSWER THIS ONE.
Q: WHY DID AISHA IN HER COMPLETE LIFE DID NOT SHOW ANY OBJECTION TOWARDS HER MARRIAGE IF IT WAS WRONG OR AGAINST HER WILL.
My response:
I have refuted each and every claim of yours in my blogs. But lying and twisting the facts is in muslim nature, so I can’t help you.
Regarding your question, Your 51 years OLD PEDOPHILE MO married a 6 years old CHILD girl, ayesha. Have you seen 6 years old girls? And 51 years old Grandpa? Does a girl at 6 understand what marriage is? And what sex is?
How can ayesha at 6 say it is wrong to marry a 51 years old grandpa? What is your proof that she agreed to the marriage? In islam, her silence was her consent, how sick? A 6 years old girl’s silence, who does not know what marriage is and what sex is and who was playing with dolls, is her consent????????????
Her father surely knew that and hence objected by saying that Ayesha is like MO’s daughter being brother’s daughter (he could not directly say NO as he was knowing the result as his death) but YOUR PEDO MO said that Ayesha is HALAL for him. The same Pedo MO rejected another girl by saying that she is HARAAM to him as she is his brother’s daughter.
CAN YOU SEE THE HYPOCRASY OF PEDO MO?????????????????
ONE GIRLIS HALAL AND ANOTHER IS HARAM, THE REASON IS SAME, BOTH ARE DAUGHTERS OF BROTHERS??????????????????????????
SURELY AYESHA WAS MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN THE OTHER GIRL. NOT ONLY THIS, PEDO MO LUSTED FOR AYESHA WHEN SHE WAS AN INFANT (WRAPPED UP IN A CLOTH). OTHER THAN THIS, YOUR PEDO MO TOOK SAFIYA TO BED, THE SAME NIGHT HE KILLED HER FATHER, BROTHERS AND HUSBAND. THE PERVERT LEACHER MO DIDN’T SPARE HIS OWN DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AND FULFILLED HIS LUST. WHAT A SICK MAN MO WAS AND WHAT A SHAME ON YOU PERVERT FOLLOWERS WHO DON’T SEE ANYTHING WRONG IN SUCH CRIMINAL’S ACTIONS AND YOU WORSHIP HIM.
Ajaml wrote:
IF A MUSLIM SPEAKS ANYTHING,THEN YOU SAY IT TU QUOQUE.
YOU GO TO A WEBSITE OF A CHRISTIAN LADY
WWW.MUSLIMBRIDGES.ORG
HERE YOU WILL FIND THEIR RESPONSE FOR PROPHET (PBUH) MARRIAGE WITH HAZRAT AISHA.
Ab tum jab itna bada bada jhoot likh rahe ho that he ruined hundreds and thousands of girls life.AUR TUMHEIN KOI GAALI NAHI DE TO KYA DUA DE.
AGAR MAIN KAHOON THAT YOUR MOTHER IS A PROSTITUTE AND FATHER A REGULAR VISITER TO RED LIGHT AREA (WHICH HE IS NOT),TO KYA TUM MUJHE DUA DOGE???
it has taken some photographs.still some are missing.
My response:
Do you know what TU QUOQUE is? You muslims are using that all the time along with your TAQQIYA. Search for Ayatollah Khomeni and read his pervert thinking. He says” Even having sex with a 6 MONTHS old girl is NOT CRIME”.
Show me a single verse in your crap quran or sunnah or hadiths which says the minimum age of marriage for the girl.
By following the “MOST NOBEL MAN ON THE EARTH EVER LIVED” “THE EXEMPLER, A MODEL TO BE FOLLOWED BY ALL MANKIND” as per islam that is “MOST PERVERT, LEACHER AND PEDOPHILE MO” your cretin brothers have ruined hundreds of thousand of little girls life. And that is the fact which you cannot change by lying, however hard you try.
By running after my parents you have proved one more time that all you can do is ranting and no reasoning.
A 54 YEARS OLD MAN BONKING A 9 YEARS OLD CHILD IS PEDOPHILIA AND HENCE YOUR PERVERT MO IS A PEDOPHILE.
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Friday, July 27, 2007

How a Stupid lawyer/CA kills Opportunities of young Entrepreneurs.


Friday, July 27, 2007

WHEN YOU NEED A CA OR LAWYER?AND HOW TO CHOOSE A HONEST ONE.
If you are a beginner in any business, whether it is Media/Industry or Finance or a Pan Shop, kindly study the points, as under ,which are most essential for your personal and professional life.

1] You officially never need a Lawyer or a CA till you cross 5 million mark, what you need is study of concerned constitutional and company act clauses like SHRIMAD BHAGWAT GEETA, when you come to a position ,when lawyers and CA’S call you and ask you, How are you Sir? Remember us sometime, why not to meet for a cup of coffee, which is the time, when you will need a Lawyer and CA, now it’s time you begin to call them one by one and begin to study them.

2] My Nana[Grand father] Shri D.P. Vaidya was a Crorepati lawyer in 1940’s,he died at the age of 49 vomiting blood ,leaving behind money ,greedy friends but a very strong wife and 5 very young children. Family was reduced to drastic poverty but by the grace of Lord Dattatray and my Iron lady alas NANI, they come up, all are Millionaires today but they never ever looked back to legal profession, once I asked my Nani, after studying all my Nanas library, should I become a lawyer? She replied after wiping her tears, “I Know you will become a great lawyer but better you become a sweeper, I will bless you, feed you but never ask me this question again……….”

3] My study of 30 odd years revealed to me that 99% of lawyers and CA’S are fabulous if you know your law and accounts, if you are honest with your personal and professional account books, they are the best friends you can ever have on mother earth. The movement they smell your dishonesty with your own money or your stupidity with your account books or applicable laws, 80% of them become devils friend, they show you more and more and more ways of earning fast money, and your earning multiplies thousand fold, now you are a victim to Devil, God within and outside, your wife warns you but you are drunk , you don’t listen.

4] Slowly and Staidly you are proud to be a smart criminal, slowly best of your well-wishers, honest family members leave you and you are happy about it, as they do not match your status, you are now sleeping with best of the stars, having lunch with topmost of the Ministers, you are frequently invited to VVIP gatherings, what else a smart and ambitious person wants?

5] God has an unimaginable ways of rewards and punishments, his rewards are so obvious that we generally mistake it for our good deeds and take credit for all the rewards but the movement we receive first kick from him, we blame whole world, our mothers, and fathers but forget to take responsibility for our own bad Karmas.

6] I Know dozens of 100 crore women and man, who need a shoulder to weep, they are most earnestly, eagerly wish to spend lakhs of rupees for just a occasion to be with few people, these people are also willing to meet them but whatever efforts we make ,we find no time to meet these sisters and brothers for as long as 7,8,9,19 years, my wife calls them, “People under punishment from lord”.

7] On the other hand, Shri Sai-Satya Sai bless us with noblest of friends, who do not need us anytime in life, we are nobody in front of them, value of their caravan of vehicles is more than our annual turn over but they drop in unannounced at home, touch feet of our Mother, play with children, I call them and say I am busy, they say “you be busy, who came to meet you? We came to meet our family, do you accept us to call and inform you?”

8] There are only three things, which make you rich with abundant infinite bliss;
A] Your honesty with yourself
B] Reflection of will of God in your work
C] Keep on trying for opportunity to serve family ,friends and less fortunate brothers ,sisters and children.

9] Do not trust me, just try one of these attributes for 3 days in your life and you will thank God for reading this articles, send me your reactions and experiences, May god bless all mothers, brothers, and sisters. OM SHRI SAIRAM.

[Anirudh M.Dhodapkar is Chairman to Media/ Banking/Film Project-Marketing-Content-Distribution Consultancy firm “KRS”, he writes for 200 Business Portals. He has overcome unimaginable circumstances and emerged victorious in 36 years of his life, that is why, he is willing to help everyone with gratitude and prayers.EMAIL;khemrajrupaliandsons@gmail.com, Blog;http://anirudhdhodapkar.blogspot.com/]




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Monday, July 23, 2007

Growing In Vacuum -- Cause of Terrorism


Sunday, July 22, 2007
Boooom!!!!!!!!!!!! Boooooooooommm!!! the bombs are now a days every where.. earlier we used to think they are targeting some countries from which they want something, but now they even started targeting their own lands.. own people... Yes !! I'm Talking about terrorists and terrorism.... every debate i am hearing is about "Who" started it?? "Who" are they?? "Where " they come from?? "What" they want?? "How" to stop them??? "When" they can attack next??.. "How" to punish them..?? "Where" to find them?? One can see we are asking every kind of WH Questions expect WHY??? Why do they exist?
And i guess answer to that question may help in solving many problem..... and i am not saying this piece of blog with my thoughts will give the root cause, but yes if "Experts" in various threads of society come together and have healthy debate on the ground root problem, then yes definitely we will have root cause of this which will then may lead us to permanent solution. Yes, A Permanent Solution for Terror!! whatever world is doing is not Stopping / Reducing terror but just 'Avoiding' it. neither force nor agreements between governments will solve this problem permanently. But most probably, or i would say certainly, demolishment of Root cause is the only solution. The problem is "WHAT IS THE ROOT CAUSE"??? first lets confirm what is terrorism??, and who are terrorists?? As per me Terrorists are those people who spread terror for their own REAL interest. having said that, though the visible interests may differ, the real interest is to grab 'importance'. To grab the position. The position which society has Denied them to get. "Is terrorism a product of religion?" i would say NO. there is terrorism / extremism in name of every religion on this earth.. "Is terrorism a product of religious Belief??" I would again say NO.. whatever your belief is, psychologically it is not easy to become Terrorist. Just religious beliefs don't give you the courage to fight to get the desired thing. "They Why only certain religions have more extremist groups than other???" This is very interesting question. Take a simple example. There are two boys one is of Religion A and other is of B. There is One Apple left and both are hungry. There can be various scenarios possible 1) Both boys fight with each other, the one wins get entire Apple. and other boy remains Hungry. 2) Both the boys fight for apple. Both are equally strong. so finally Both share the apple. and both are happy. 3) Both the boys fight for it. As both are equally strong its difficult for any one to win. Suddenly one boy says This Apple is for sell. Since he knew other guy don't have money he remains hungry Among all above cases the future results are different.. In case A, World War II happens. In case 2 European reunion happens and in case C seed for terrorism is planted. There is no relation of which religion you are from. You are just denied what is desired.
And hence According to me the major cause for terrorism is "Money". Rather denying the desired, just because one don't have money. In such cases, if there is no way to earn money to achieve what is desired, men choose alternative. Attitude is like "You don't give me because i don't have money?? hahaha i will still show you that i can get it". And in such situation if you alone cannot grab the desired, find the group of people who desire the same and try to achieve it, and that spreads the "Terror"!!
"So can we say the terrorism a byproduct of capitalism??" Partly Yes. you can say it is byproduct of capitalism. But "Desiring" something is as natural as breathing. in above example of case 3, the situation bows seeds for terrorism. But after that the process of "Grouping" of alike minded people and thinking of "Action" and then actually acting accordingly takes lot from external forces. But a single Force can stop this as soon as seed is bowed. Take example above, there are two possible endings, but the same start Start: the boy will be first depressed. And then become angry that he don't have money. End I: His mother tells him, Presently they are not rich because his dad lost his job. But if you try hard and take every good and honest efforts, one day will arrive, when you shall get enough money to buy entire farm of apples. End II: His friend tells him, Presently they are not rich because his dad lost his job being from religion A. Even if you try hard and take every efforts, one day will arrive, you will be denied to eat apple because you are from Religion A. This is the point and situation where the future of the boy "DECIDES". There can be separate debate why this day should be in the life so that he can buy an apple. but even after that the Direction that he gets decide the his and ultimately everyone of ours future. So if we take a overview, More than Poverty, The root cause is the Direction given to jobless people. Or we can say a whole part of generation which is born after capitalist world is born. They have various temptations in present world like earlier, but now they are "AWARE" of tempting things and also aware that it is not possible to get it. It just happen that some section of the society of same religion fall in lower income group and hence not getting Apple. But the Director (in this case leader of the respective group) should be responsible enough to use this opportunity to direct the crowd in "Competitive" and "Motivating" way rather than "Depressing", "Power oriented" way. Yes!! here comes the point. This entire section of post-capitalist generation is lacking DIRECTION. And good direction can resolve this. Now, still this is prime cause but not the root cause. now the question arise "Who is the director? and when he will direct the crowd" The truth is "You are the director". As you can see.. Everyone of this "extremist" category is growing in Vacuum and now there is no way we can pull them back on "Ground". But this society, that includes everyone, me and YOU, needs to make sure that no one is growing in "Thoughtless", "Directionless", "Aimless" vacuum anymore. And to reduce vacuum, just be calm and quiet and help the person who is trying to remain on ground during his depressive days. always tell every one only one sentence of great Mr M.K. Gandhi "Eye for an Eye will leave world Blind"
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Monday, July 16, 2007

What is so special and tragic about Indian muslims?


Sunday, July 15, 2007
An Indian muslim is born not into a family but into a religion. His parents are devout. They go to mosque regularly and are serious about their religion. There is no fun element. All serious business. It is almost claustrophobic to the outsiders. Most muslims keep their interaction with others to the minimum.Compare this with Hindus or Christians or even sikhs. Hindus take their religion less seriously. It makes them chuckle to visualise a Hanuman, a fully decked Krishna or the singing Naradmuni. Thus there is a lot of openness and a feeling that others also must take their religions less seriously to make more friendships and to create a bonhomie.All muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are almost muslim has become a cliche. When Indians read that politically correct statement that Indian doctors were involved in the Glasgow attack, they immediately knew it must be muslim. Not some Suresh, Williams or Jain. Indian muslims with a sinking feeling knew. That is the tragedy.The only solution is that they should cut off from the fanatic elements of the middle east, Saudi and others. Indian muslims must have roots and heart in India. If they isolate themselves from the suicidal ummah or whatever, then only India will be spared from global upheavals to a great extent.
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mujahidd Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:22:14 PM
brother vivek u r frm a religion which is almost of a one region so u cant understand the brotherhood of religion all over the wold.1st u have written that almost all terrorist r muslim.then tell me the naxallies of india r totally HINDU,naxallist r harming our coutry the most,allmost every weak their is naxall attack.brother be polite to all.if u have this type thinking how can a muslim can communicate with society.the society and the media spreading false image of muslim.is the muslim have only the work to save them frm false alligation.
vivekaahuja Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:32:16 PM
naxalites activities are mostly localised though they are more violent. naxalites though they appear like from hindu have no religion as such as their leader is Mao and naxalites are mostly drawn from tribals with their own gods.
shahab_ind Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:10:10 PM
Dear Vivek..... you have written very easily that all the terrorists are almost muslims. that is the main fuss.... people like you dont think what they are saying. this is the main reason why muslims get irritated from the other community. My friend, muslims r so sweet that u cant even imagine. be closer to them & see. secondly, what do u know about their religion???? whatever science is telling now whether its geography or philosophy, muslim religion has said already.... first u go in details & then tell anything. If muslims are the terrorists then who is responsible to make them a terrorists???? think over it....
shahab_ind Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:15:36 PM
Moreover ur swarg is here but muslim's jannat is not here. its above the sky which a true muslim will get after the death forever. He has to live a very simple & religious life to get the place in Jannat.
vivekaahuja Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:20:22 PM
I said it is a cliche. It has become a habit to say so. Use muslim brotherhood for useful and peaceful purposes. brother there is no swarg or jannat. whatever is here only.
desi Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:31:58 PM
Who is Hanuman? and why only Hanuman is been given puja..why not all monkeys. and Ram is the God why did Ram sent Hanuman to know about Sita whether she is alive or not! why a God will not now the present and the past and what is going to happen. what a joke. First think what is Islam and learn about it with a right person and then comment.
Badmash Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:51:34 PM
Talk about Muslim terrorist and Badmash is not invited? Vivek- these blind zombie muslim cann't understand what is Hindusim.wotsa patriotism, they will cry for Saddam, UAE, Osama, afganistan. shame on indian Muslim
Badmash Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:53:38 PM
There is cannot be as such comparison between Hindusim and Islam, first islam act like Human Beings...then compare with other religion
Badmash Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:09:56 PM
Desi Sunday- Idiot, somewhere muslims were complaing ki Hindu worship every animal monkey, Cow, rat, fish, and Now what i see here u complaining that we don't worship Moneky? whats you all muslims problem?Ram- each and every person are equaly close to God as Ram and Krishna, and wot makes them God, -Karma, duty, responsiblites to country and peoples, they were Perfect Man, no one is perfect on earth but these Dudes were really Perfect.
tushar Sunday, July 15, 2007 11:20:07 PM
The mindless violence that muslims are indulging in all over the world.in the name of religion deserves strongest condemnation.Instead of contributing to the humanity and the world ,they are wreaking chaos and mayhem by giving false alibis of their persecution.While claiming to be themselves austere and attacking the rest of the civilization .blinded by medieval dogmas are trying thrust on civilised world.In a recent google survey the Pakistanis are found to be on top for logging on on sites ,it amply debunks them of their mralistic pretensions of their islamic values for being austere..They must come out of their dark persuits like jehad,fatwas and obscurtist mindset and join the mainstream of enlightened world and be progressive.
ikchhugani Monday, July 16, 2007 6:14:38 AM
Desperately Needed From Masjids ... Clerics Who Can Motivate Citizens Of India To Fight.Fight not over, WHY YOU WORE THAT DRESS ? ... or Why you spoke against MY God ? or Why my community MUST have 99% reservations ? ... But more important matter .... Desperately seeking some Clerics from Masjids to motivate citizens of India to do something for themselves, like making an effort to reduce corruption, making an effort to force the Rogue Police to change their ways. If these clerics can motivate hundreds to lay down their lives, fighting forces millions of times large, like the UK defence forces, Pakistani military, Indian army, etc, etc ... This simple convincing, should be an extremely easy Job. If you know any Clerics, please guide them to me, through my website www.RoguePolice.com . It is time the citizens of India, shed their timid attitude towards, disgusting conduct of the Politicans, police, the bureacrats and the judiciary ... the confidence being felt within Indians, due to rapid economic progress, should also be felt in other areas... like confidence to usher in change What we require is a strong peoples movement to take on the arrogant, corrupt Government officials and politicians, Rogues in the Police force and the Judiciary... JOIN IN NOW. CITIZENS POLICING THE CORRUPT AND POLICE IS A MUST TODAY. Visit ... www.RoguePolice.com/policing.htm
Infidel Monday, July 16, 2007 6:21:28 AM
A thoughtful article by vivek. Good responses by tushar and my friend badmash. Vivek wrote:"An Indian muslim is born not into a family but into a religion".A small correction, All muslims are born into a religion than to a family, a society or a nation. They are born for UMMAH. For a true muslim, everything else comes after Islam. I have seen many muslims from all over the globe for whom islam is above their family, their motherland and the very society they live in.
Infidel Monday, July 16, 2007 6:27:31 AM
Shahab wrote::My friend, muslims r so sweet that u cant even imagine. be closer to them & see".In general, we can find good, bad and ugly natured persons in every religion and every country. Muslims are not a problem but Islam is for sure. A true muslim (who follows quran and sunnah properly)cant be a good human being and vice versa. Once a person frees himself from evil of islam, he can see the light of humanity and freedom of thoughts.
Infidel Monday, July 16, 2007 6:32:32 AM
Shahab wrote:"whatever science is telling now whether its geography or philosophy, muslim religion has said already"Please prove your claim.Shahab wrote:"If muslims are the terrorists then who is responsible to make them a terrorists??"It's Islam and its scriptures (Quran, hadiths, tafsirs etc) who are responsible for making mulsims terrorists. Moreover, "everything is in quran-the word of allah" notion is responsible for the backwardness, intelectual submission and stangnancy to 7th century barbarism of muslim ummah.
Rocking Monday, July 16, 2007 12:39:41 PM
Infidel you don't know anything about Islam so don't say ill of it. and don't tarnish the image.and if you still do it will not harm Islam but on the contrary it will get more popularity. which is the reason it is the fastest spreading religion on earth. icluding America and europe.
Desi Monday, July 16, 2007 2:10:39 PM
Badmash u are born to Badmash that's why u speak badmas and think badmash, where were u before the bombay bomb blasts, many innocent muslims and many other were killed, buy u r netas is this, what ur religion teaches u and when it comes to u. It is not a terrorism? U know u cannot prove about your self or your community? And for your kind info you people make communities... If your mother, sister or wife or brother or someone has faced in your family u will now better? First correct your society? Then the state and then Country ? I Islam teaches us love our place,society & country too. But you people think that you are all only the true indian, and most of you only are the reason to make India a corrupt...Harming any human being is a terror? Then think on the name of religion you have done many things?
sumon dutta Monday, July 16, 2007 8:24:54 PM
Dear,Vevek you are right. Good article.Naxal people are brother of ISI.Please watch PTV. You shall get correct information from them.Naxal people don’t use religious dialogue in their political speech.They have lot of Muslim member. Search it if you have any interest about them.
infidel Monday, July 16, 2007 8:48:11 PM
Rocking aka Macho man,I never claimed that I know Islam or any other religion fully. But so far none of the muslim/dhimmi bloggers could refute a single point of mine here. Give it a try, if you can.Islam is evil by its nature, so no matter who says good or bad about it, it remains an evil and bloodthirsty cult. It is FASTEST GROWING MYTH that Islam is fastest growing religion (read cult). Muslim population is growing mainly due to reproduction of momeens like rats. Muslims are leaving islam in millions whereas converts to islam are in thousands and most of them again leaving islam in 1-3 years. Please read my article on leaving islam.

Wednesday, July 4, 2007

Reply to Vinod Kumar on woes of a community


Tuesday, July 3, 2007
Dear Vinod
You are commenting on the subject without actually understanding it.First of all you have to expand your own sphere of understanding coz your conclusions sounds mono-focal.You are totally wrong when you said community has not produced great leaders. My friend you just dont know them.
Check history from its inception Islam produces innumerable great leaders in all the fields from science & technology to politics,religion,spirituality,military,education to civil liberties. The problem is some people just dont want to look at it.
Tell me who is Prez Abdul Kalaam ?Who is Azim Premji ?Who was Maulana Azad,Jinnah,Ali Brothers,Ashfaqullah Garhwali,Galib,Khusro,Rafi Kidwai,Fakhruddin Ali Ahmad the list is endless my friend.
And above all Prophet Mohammed was adjudged numero uno by a western christian in Top 100 & he is still on top of the list of the best ever produced by a human civilisation.
I dont know why you guys conveniently forget thousands who excel in all walks of life & never failed to remember few bad people.
Because you are focused on microscopic minority of bad people. If you compare leaders & scholars & scientist proportionate to their population, muslims produces more leaders than any other ethnic group. Check your facts before accusing others my friend.And about the hype of fundamentalism show me a single religion where there is no fundamentalist present.What do you think RSS,VHP,Bajarangi,Godse,Togadias & Singhals are not fanatics ?Do you even know how many Hindus are opposing secularism ?How many hail Godse as hero ?Just because muslims has conflict with foreign tech-bullying everybody is jumping on the bandwagon to accuse & abuse the community. Muslim bashing is a fashion & passion. Its like when big brother get on rampage all frogs start dancing on the same tune. Muslims peacefully co-exist with various faiths for thousands years & now suddenly its clash of civilisation....wow big deal.
Do you know what kind of social & moral disaster your so called liberalism creates in the western world ?
Immoral illicit sex,single mothers,millions getting pregnant at the age of 13 & 14,gays & lesbian,transvestite wierdos,pedophiles,drugs,booz,rackless destruction of values, morales & ethics the list is miserably endless my friend.
If this is what liberalism produced I would love to be an orthodox.
If avoiding evil means fundamentalism yes I am fundamentalist my friend.
Wake up dude dont fool yourselfDont hurl baseless crap without reasonable facts just to show your so called progressive attitude.
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Tuesday, July 3, 2007

Faith Freedom - fake or real?


Saturday, June 30, 2007
Supposed testimonies of Muslims leaving Islam on Ali Zina's site
By Sami Zaatari





As one reads the filthy site of faithfreedom.org, one will notice that the site often has testimonies and stories of Muslims leaving Islam. Nearly every week they have an update.

However so, as I have read these testimonies they always seem hilariously funny, it is like watching a bad script, and a bad actor. Now I am not saying that all testimonies are false, but after a while you can tell the difference between real ones and fake ones. It will not take a genius to figure out that there have been several fake testimonies.

I mean when you read these testimonies you will think to yourself, that if these people were really Muslims then they were the dumbest Muslims around! However so, I don’t believe that. These supposed testimonies show the same mind-set of a Christian, or an atheists perception of Islam, which is what makes these testimonies all the more funny.

What makes this more amusing is that all of the readers on that silly site, including Ali Zina do not question any of those testimonies; they just post them without thinking if they are true or false. I mean I could go on a forum now, and make a fake testimony of me leaving Christianity! People can say all types of things on forums, and they do it a lot on that rubbish site.

I will quote some parts of a few testimonies which will really show how fake they are.

Testimony 1:

Not until about two years ago I never doubted Islam as a true religion, and “Allah” is the almighty GOD, and Mohammed is the messenger of Allah to human kind. What else can I know, and I was born to a large family, uneducated parents, who blindly accept everything the “book” and the haddiths say.

Note the propaganda already. This idiot is actually insulting their own parents!!!

Note the message that this loser is trying to send, that Muslims are un-educated, follow everything blindly, who writes this stuff!!!!

Yes, Muslims are so blind and stupid, yet this supposed former Muslim was so smart and was able to see the truth, hilarious. So basically the message is all Muslims are dumb, all who leave Islam are the smart ones and know what they are doing, the ones who stay Muslims are blind people. My suggestion to people who write this stuff is to make it a bit more real next time, I mean common, if you want to make something up, at least try to make it seem a bit realistic.

Let us continue:

I asked Allah to clear my heart, and make me a better Muslim, and to allow me to go straight into paradise, and please, please not to toss me into the hell fire.

More and more propaganda rubbish. Here this faker is trying to send the message that all Muslims simply pray and try to be a good Muslim because we constantly fear being thrown into fire.

That claim is un-true, yes all Muslims fear the hell-fire, but we do not go around praying and being a good Muslim because we are always constantly afraid of hell fire.

So basically the faker is now trying to show that Muslims are blind people who practice Islam to simply avoid hell. Again, WHO WRITES THIS STUFF!!!!!

I can tell you I follow Islam not because I constantly fear hell, but because I believe in Allah, the true God, and he commands me to, and I happily follow to please God, and that is the straight path.

Continuing with this fake testimony:

But the unexpected happed, after days and days of asking Allah his guidance continuously, every time I come to pray or read the Quran I felt sickened, irritated, annoyed. I felt sort of shaking sometimes and angry that I started cursing silently while I am supposed to be performing my prayers.

Really? Well if this is true this shows that just like your mentor Ali Sina, you too suffer from mental illness and trouble. In fact what you were doing is the sign of someone who has a jinn with them, since the evil jinn hate the Quran, and when they are near it they curse, and do whatever they can to be insulting. Strange you seem to have these symptoms in you.

Anyway this is getting funny now, but let us continue with it:

I think that’s disgusting. I will never follow anyone, and only follow my heart, because it knows what is right for me.

Really? What an arrogant atheist fool. They follow their own desires, rather than follow the one who made them, oh well, hell-fire will be their home.

Well that is the end of one testimony, as you can see, it does not take a brain genius to figure out the load of lies and rubbish and propaganda involved in these fake stories. I mean common, this was first posted on a forum! And everyone takes it as final and do not even question it. So if I go to a forum and say I saw a fish with 13 eyes, and it has 6 hands, and had a superman logo on its body, would those people on the forum believe me? ;)

This just shows how weak and silly that site is, and shows how foolish their readers really are, they all take each other for lies to make each other feel good.

Maybe they should make a contest on who can make up the best testimony.
Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.
Rebuttals to FaithFreedom.Org's Articles section.
Sami Zaatari's Rebuttals section.
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