Ajmal, answer this if you can - 2

Tuesday, April 10, 2007
Ajmal, Answer this if you can - 2
Dear Ajmal,
As I said earlier, you are not even worthy of debating with. You have very limited knowledge and you are stubborn too, hence you don’t want to learn anything. You actually believe that each and every word of quran is divine and therefore absolutely correct. Nobody, especially no ifidel, can challenge the divinity of quran and if someone like me does that, you want to teach me a lesson and want to prove your islam divine. I have no problem if you can prove islam divine, but for that you have to be honest with yourself at least. Continuos denial of the proven facts and shown truth will not make your islam divine. You have to prove that with solid proof and evidances.
Here is my answer to your blog addressed to me.
I sincerely request you to go through it carefully with cool head, read and understand first what I mean to say and then try to answer logically if required. Don’t flood with copy paste stuff in order to prove your islam divine. Answer simple questions in this blog and you will see the truth by yourself.
You wrote:
I WILL REQUEST YOU NOT TO POST THE SAME COMMENT IN ALL MY BLOGS.POST A COMMENT IN ONE BLOG ONLY AS I CAN NOT WASTE MY TIME IN REPLYING SAME THING AT DIFFERENT PLACES.IT IS SO BECAUSE ,I AM PREPARING FOR CLASS 11th ENTRANCE EXAMS AN THIS NDTV ALSO DENIES TO ACCEPT COMMENTS AFTER FEW COMMENTS ARE POSTED.
My response:
Now you understand what “wastage of time” is. Good for you, ajmal. I requested you many times not to post the same crap again and again but still you are continuing that. See above, Ayesha and pedo Mo is discussed in details and all your above 10 points are refuted in such a way that you could not find answers for that and keep on posting the same crap here and there. You are wasting yours, mine and our readers time by posting such crap. Please read my rebuttals to your points in my blogs “MO-Part 2 and MO-Part 2 Contd.”and other blogs. It’s a proven fact now that MO was pedophile and no room for argument on that. Please don’t copy-paste the same old crap again.
You wrote:
REGARDING TWO EASTS ,I HAVE POSTED COMMENTS IN DETAILS IN ANY OF MY BLOG ON QURAAN.STILL I WILL REQUEST YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF EQUINOXES AND SOLSTICES ONCE AGAIN.READ THE LESSON UNIVERSE FROM NCERT BOOKS OF CLASS 10tH AND YOU WILL GET YOUR REPLIES.
Since you have just cleared 10 standard, it is quite obvious that beyond quran, your knowledge has gone to that 10 standard only. You need to learn a lot.
You keep on quoting EQUINOX and SOLSTICE. Let us see what they are and please show us how they make 2 easts?
Wikipedia explains equinox and solstice as below.
An equinox in astronomy is the event when the Sun can be observed to be directly above the Earth's equator, occurring around March 20 and September 23 each year.
In a wider sense, the equinoxes are the two days each year when the center of the Sun spends an equal amount of time above and below the horizon at every location on Earth. The word equinox derives from the Latin words aequus (equal) and nox (night).
A solstice occurs twice a year, whenever Earth's axis tilts the most toward or away from the Sun, causing the Sun to be farthest north or south at noon. The name is derived from Latin sol (sun) and sistere (to stand still), because at the solstice, the Sun stands still in declination, that is, it reaches a maximum or a minimum. The term solstice can also be used in a wider sense as the date (day) that such a passage happens. The solstices, together with the equinoxes, are related to the seasons.
EAST IS (NOT “EAST ARE”, HENCE SINGULAR MEANS ONLY 1 EAST NOT 2 EASTS) ONE (Mind it ajmal, it says ONE not TWO) of the four cardinal directions or compass points. It is the opposite of west and at right angles to north and south.
Where do you find 2 EASTS AND 2 WESTS in it? What equinox and solstice has to do with quranic 2 easts and 2 wests? At the most you could claim about 2 EXTREMES OF EASTS and 2 EXTREMES OF WESTS.
Is EAST is same as EXTREME OF EAST?
If yes, allah is a fool who does not know the difference and hence wrote 2 easts in place of 2 extremes of east. I would be more than happy if you accept that.
And if no, then apologists like naik and you are fools who are twisting the meaning of the quranic verses to fit modern knowledge and science. See the helplessness of such apologists. On one side they claim that allah said that he is the lord of 2 easts and 2 wests. Fine. But there is only one east and only one west. NOw question is how to save face? So these apologists take help of terms like EQUINOX AND SOLSTICE to show two extremes of easts. What an islamic logic!!!! Allah is saying 2 easts and apologists are saying two extremes of east. That means all eaerlier trnaslators like yusuf ali, pickthal, shakir etc are fools and only people like zakir naik are intelligant. Moreover, zakir naik etc are much smarter than allah, because they can change the meaning of quranic verses to fit their objective. These zombies claim that allah said 2 easts but explain with 2 extreme of east.
As if allah, the all knowing (really??) does not know the arabic word for 2 extremes of east hence put 2 easts instead. What a shameful explaination for crap!!
Don’t get confused yourself and don’t try to make others confused as everybody knows (except blind followers like you) that only 1 east and 1 west are there.
Please ask to a KG student how many easts are there and he/she will tell you that there is only 1 east. Don’t submit your intellegence to the crap of 2 easts and 2 wests. After all you are 10th pass and should know more than a KG student.
Let me repeat myself one more time (I don’t know how many times more I have to repeat it to make you understand this simple thing?)
I asked you to do a simple experiment by yourself. Did you do that? No, you didn’t. Though I know that you will never do it and even if you will do it, you will never admit what you found. Still I request you to please do it this time, so that you can see the truth.You are no different than muneer, who could not accept the truth and argued wagely with abuses. Finally he is learning your islam all over again.
Take a stick and put it in front of you such that its one end is on your left side and the other on your right side.The stick has two extremes, one on your left side and another on your right side (remember your equinox and two extremes of easts). Tell me how many stick(s) are there, one or two? As per your Islamic knowledge, you should call 2 sticks, because it has 2 extremes, right. But for we infidels, there is only one stick, not two. Similarly, east (and all other directions) have 2 extremes but all of them are single in count.Try to understand the difference between EAST and EXTREMES of EAST.I don’t know what is so difficult in this example which you cannot understand. What you are calling is 2 extremes of east theory. OK east has 2 extremes, so what? Are there 2 easts now? What a rubbish argument!!!Your quran is telling 2 EASTS and NOT 2 EXTREMES OF EAST (see your rather Naik's translation in your blogs).That verse is not talking about equinox but about directions (2 easts and 2 wests) whereas you people are putting words in your allah mouth by insisting on equinox.
Show me a single example where you find 2 easts and 2 wests other than your crap quran. As you cannot, come out of your denial state from the truth and accept that quran is crap.You wrote:
REGARDING MY BLOG ON DHAHAHA,IT APPEARS THAT YOU HAVE NOT READ IT PROPERLY.IT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT ONE WORD IN ARABIC HAS SEVERAL MEANINGS.YOU WROTE:-
Moreover, even if I have to consider Islamic claim that dahaha means “egg-shaped”, which it does not, even though our earth is not egg shaped at all.
It is more close to a sphere or in common term to a ball than to an egg. Go to your kitchen and take an egg. Now compare it with a ball or rather with a globe. Are they same in shape?MY RESPONSE:-I WILL LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT DHAHAHA ESPECIALLY MEANS THE EGG OF OSTRICH.PERHAPS YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.THEN PLEASE VISIT A ZOO OR MAKE MY FAVOURITE GOGLE IMAGES SEARCH FOR THAT.
My response:
IT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT ONE WORD IN ARABIC HAS SEVERAL MEANINGS
OK, I agree that one word may have many meanings. What I am asking is that which meaning you want to stick with. You cannot say both FLAT AND EGGE SHAPED at the same time. Either earth is flat or it is egge shaped (as per your crap quran and your explaination of word DAHAHA). So first decide, DAHAHA means FLAT or Egg Shaped in this particular verse. Don’t jump from one meaning to another to save your face. First you said, DAHAHA means “to spread”, then “egg shaped” and now “ostrich egg”. Hold firm on your words, don’t keep on changing your own explainations.
This time you said DAHAHA especially means “EGG OF OSTRICH”. Fine. Now don’t change your stance.
Again your great naik etc are trying to show that they are more knowledgeable than yusuf ali, pickthal, shakir etc. Pedo mo said earth is flat like carpet but modern science says its like ball. HOw to save face?? Find Ostrich word somewhere and make DAHAHA means OSTRICH EGG. How much lies you people can tell, I REALLY WONDER?? And followers like you parroting the same crap blindly without even enquiring the actual meaning. Great islamic wisdom on display.
Whenever I write something, I think before I write. I suggest the same to others also. It saves ourselves from being humiliated.
See what I wrote and what you responded.
I wrote: Moreover, even if I have to consider Islamic claim that dahaha means “egg-shaped”, which it does not, even though our earth is not egg shaped at all.
It is more close to a sphere or in common term to a ball than to an egg. Go to your kitchen and take an egg. Now compare it with a ball or rather with a globe. Are they same in shape?
You wrote: I WILL LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT DHAHAHA ESPECIALLY MEANS THE EGG OF OSTRICH.PERHAPS YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.THEN PLEASE VISIT A ZOO OR MAKE MY FAVOURITE GOGLE IMAGES SEARCH FOR THAT.
No Ajmal, DAHAHA does not mean Ostrich egg. It means “to spread out”. It also refer to “the spreading out of soil by an ostrich while laying its eggs in order to cover them”.
Now see the height of islamic apology, since ostrich word is there, make the meaning of DAHAHA as “EGGE SHAPED” and somebody like me argues, further make it “OSTRICH EGG”.
One of your brother wrote about ELECTRICITY AND AERO PLANE TEHNOLOGY in quran. Since COPPER word is in quran hence allah predicted ELECTRICITY and since WIND word is there, make it AERO PLANE TECHNOLOGY. What a wishful apology!!!
Same is in your case. DAHAHA does not mean EGG SHAPED OR OSTRICH EGG. But just for sake of argument, I said that even if I have to consider it so, our earth is not at all egg shaped.
You asked me to go to zoo or google search. Did you do that first before asking me to do so? Certainly not. If you did that, you would have not asked me. You are preapring ground for me to refute your hollow claims in a humiliating manner. See below the googled images of a ball, the earth and an ostrich egg.
Tell me ajmal, how our earth looks like, close to a ball or close to an ostrich egg?
Now don’t tell me that since allah said earth is flat, egge shaped or is ostrich egg, hence you can only see our earth like ostrich egg and cannot see it like ball. LOL
PS: It is useless to tell you the difference between prolate and oblate spheriods. Scientifically, both earth and egg are totally opposite in nature as per this explantion but you will not understand it as you could not understand the shapes of a ball and an egg and continued argueing islamically.







BALL
EARTH
OSTRICH EGG

THIS EVENING AS I AM GOING TO UPDATE THOSE BLOGS BY MORE REBUTTALS TO ALI SINNA AND YOUR OTHER CRAP SITES.
Ajmal, grow up. First answer my questions and then flood with copy paste.
A PERSONAL QUESTION.MAIL ME THE REPLY AT MY ID AJMALBHAI10@YAHOO.CO.INIF U DONT WANT TO REPLY THAT HERE.
I won’t email you, period.
ARE YOU THE SAME INFIDEL WHO HAD GONE TO CHALLENGE SAMI ZATARI AT BLOGGER.COM(OR BLOGGERS.COM THAT IS RUN BY GOOGLE) AND WAS BADLY HUMILIATED??
No, I am not. I had only one open debate so far and that was with Human and Learner on this very blogsphere. So far none of muslim bloggers here could even answer my questions leave alone refuting my claims.
I KNOW WHAT EVER YOU HAVE PUBLISHED OR WHAT EVER YOU ARE GOING TO PUBLISH IS A COPY PASTE FROM VARIOUS ANTI ISLAMIC SITES.
Prove it ajmal, that I copy pasted in this blog leave alone others.
FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU VERSE NUMBER 18 OF
CHAPTER 2 OF QURAAN SAYS:
[002:018] Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path).
Answer my questions in this blog to prove that you are not DEAF, DUMB AND BLIND:
1) Do 2 extremes of 1 stick make it 2 sticks or not? If yes, how? If no, why you are arguing on 2 easts and 2 wests. Accept that your allah and his quran are wrong.
2) Do you see image of earth above, like that of a ball or like that of an ostrich egg? If you see it like an ostrich egg, go and see a doctor. If you see it like a ball, your allah and his crap quran are proved wrong one more time. Cheers.
DON’T HIDE YOUR FACE THIS TIME LIKE ALWAYS UNDER COPY PASTE STUFF AND ANSWER THESE SIMPLE QUESTIONS BY YOURSELF USING YOUR OWN BRAIN.
May god show you the truth. Amen.
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