Thursday, February 22, 2007

Krishna and Mohammed - how they differ


Saturday, February 17, 2007
Krishna and Mohammed...how they differ
Various times in Blog, people provide an excuse to mohammed pedophile behaviour by quoting krishna also had played raslila... like this onehttp://www.ndtvblogs.com/views/viewcomments.asp?gl_guid=&blogname=pinnochio&q_blogid=10324&ref=2/17/2007%207:52:33%20PM
Anakin Saturday, February 17, 2007 8:03:57 PM Why use pervert thoughts? Similar thoughts too could be appplied to Krishna's Ras Leela. When you say its divine and has to be understood in that context then the Prophet's relationship too is divine and should be viewed in that context and not with your pervert minds! Watch Deepa Mehta's Water and you will get a better idea of your hindu religion's subjugation of women and killing of female foetuses!so what is really missing is a intellactual, a gerenal awareness in people to crosscheck the things. here is a reply to those who compare krishna raslila to Mohammed pedophile behavior.Krishna was in gokul before the fall of kans. he use to play with every girl of gokul, they use to dance on shores of Yamunna.... and this is usually refered as raslial. its well documented that krishna raslila were not sexual intercourse, but just affection and love.... but perhaps some peoples dont want to accept it easily, for this muneer had commented that there only one relation between PARAYA MARD and PARAYI AURT...and they neither want to read read the documents concerning Krishna. so here is my rational for those people, they dont need to search a lot... i am giving them this link----- here it is, a very small report about krishna in a news coverage from "internation reporter"http://www.internationalreporter.com/news/read.php?id=1260consider the Quote...
Most of you would know that Lord Krishna at the age of 11 years and 52 days had killed the tyrant King Kans, His own maternal uncle, and after his death, the responsibility of the entire kingdom fell on its rightful King Ugrasen, who was then in jail.so if you think, a child of age 11 yrs 50 days (this was the time till when krishna stayed in Gokul).... might can do a sexual intercourse with girls all over gokul.. then this is your ignorant behavior to read the basics of human anatomy and development... nearly everyone goes through this change in life.... and if you haven't till now (as i think, bloggers here are above 17 at least), then you might be a special impotent case,Please consider reading this...http://www.faqs.org/health/Healthy-Living-V1/Sexuality.htmlthis is must to note under this analysis from that whole article...
Stage Four: (approximately eleven to seventeen)
At this time, the penis starts to grow in width, too. The testicles and scrotum are also continuing to grow. Boys shouldn't be alarmed if hair begins to grow on the anus; this is perfectly normal. The texture of the penis is beginning to look more adult. Underarm and facial hair increases as well. Skin will get oilier, and the voice will continue to deepen.
Stage Five: (approximately fourteen to eighteen)
Boys will be reaching their full adult height. Pubic hair and the genitals will look like an adult man's would. At this point, too, shaving may become a necessity. Some young men continue to grow past this point, even into their twenties.
HOPE YOU WILL LEARN TO ANALYSE....
beside this if you are from Judeo-Christian culture... then Judeo-Christian culture don't blame a child smaller then 13 yrs for anything. and most important to consider is if you are Muslim, then what should i say about your pedophile Prophet.... you just look for a hole, as i quoted in my last documentation...http://www.ndtvblogs.com/views/viewcomments.asp?gl_guid=&q_blogid=10231&blogname=t
if even, you consider that krishna had started observering pubitary right from his 11th birthday, then too 50 days are not enough to bring him in a state of Sexual intercourse with all girls around gokul.....
Hopefully, next time you will see raslila description with a broad minded sense, it is nothing more then a game played by childerns even today... which is known as "Ghar Ghar" in modern days..
@unperfektm
I think you lost one nerve, when comparing the fights.... or perhaps you don''t have something called moral analyzing power.....
why i am so rude, because you never learned from history, neither from old historical refereances.... neither from modern history.
so in modern history, there is a referance of Hitler, perhaps for you he is merely a dictator.... but in fact it was more then that.... wanna know why?
here is my rational, where dictators like lenin killed only those, whom they thought to be there political enimies.... Hitler killed others, because he belived they are not humans? they do not deserve any right to live on earth...
if your knowledge of history is too weak, then check it here....
http://www.aish.com/holocaust/default.asp
and also do tell me, what German jews, German Romas, and various other peoples have to do to tango nazi Germany.
now lets return to Mohammed and krishna.... krishna's was giving his guidance to pandavs, not killing others in kurushetra. also you should not forget, krishna also said, no innocent human should suffer. in case of loyality, Duryodhan got 1st chance to choose between krishna or his all army, and he choosed the army. That was a fight for pandavs for there own survival. it should also not be forgotten, that krishna himself had approached kauravs for peace, which was discarded. even before the fight occured, there were various approaches made by kauravs too to kill pandav(i.e. before war of kurushetra). but in kurushetra the only solution was to fight for sake of survival. there was no other option.
so krishna had fulfilled his job in this war, where his all army was serving kauravs... Pandavs had to fight on there own, remember krishna was driving.. and guiding the arjuna....instead of killing others.
if you check now mohammed.... why he killed all those peoples in Arabia? why they were hunted, rundown, raped, murdered, crussified and so on by mohammed and his crew? there was no political motive, they just dont belive that non-muslim have any soul, they just simply ask to kill them, and think its perfectly ok to kill them....
where krishna said, no innocent human should suffer..... Mohammed said, kill all non-Muslims. and these were last words of Mohammed, Last words when good peoples normally take name of God.
9:08:37 PM
Posted By P M Comments (52) Society
Comments
Infidel Saturday, February 17, 2007 10:03:09 PM
Excellent one, PMTwo children (a boy and a girl) of almost same age, married in their pre teen by their parents etc is even not fair.See, how these zombies are trying to make it legal/moral of a 54 years grandpa (and self emerged pedo, oops read prophet) bonking a child at 9. Really disgusting!!
perfektm Saturday, February 17, 2007 10:25:14 PM
Infidel..krishna married later in his life with Rukmani.. probably around the age of 28 in dwarka.... it only state how great hindu culture is... it only had degraded with infitration of muslims in last 10 decadeds giving us caste system, sati and pallu like tradition...
dumbo Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:42:23 PM
yes..he also married 16000+ times which should be incorporated in the guinness book...at least the muslims are ok with 4! LoL
dumbo Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:46:26 PM
PM, please dont be sooo dumb...Sati and Caste system were never islamic traditions...grow up man! Dont write junk with hate in your mind..hate leads to nowhere...In the history of mankind has nay muslim woman performed sati..Islam supports remarriage of widows.
dumbo Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:51:16 PM
There are still millions of child marriages still being conducted in India and child widows beings locked up for life in Hinduism! It is a fact, check it out.
news Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:09:31 PM
FIGHTING FEMALE FOETICIDEDon't kill the girl child, Govt now plans to raise her ibnlive.comAlarmed at the increasing rate of female foeticides across the country, the Centre is planning to launch a cradle scheme. Under the proposed scheme, the Government plans to open a centre in each district where parents can leave their girl children if they do not want to bring them up themselves. "We will bring up the children. But don't kill them," Renuka Chowdhury said. [1450 hrs IST]
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:50:38 PM
Wow! what a logic!With Krishna it is Ghar Ghar and with Mohammed it is Ammi-Abba or Mia-Biwi or your sic pedo, ledo, dodo etc and also read from your webclip the wars and killings Krishna fought many with deceit esp Karna, etc..His life story is full of revenge and killings and you accuse the muslims! Typical of hindu zealots - take people for a ride a-la Chandraswami, Kanchi Seer and their ilk!
patriotic muslim Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:58:44 PM
It is a wrong comparison.Both were GREAT HUMAN BEINGS of their times and influenced generations of people and did good for their respective community and the world as a whole. Listening to zealots and entertaining their ideas is against humanism. While one has been believed to be a God and the other a great Prophet. No use comparing and creating hatred Mr.PM. No use in throwing stones and d**t at each other when both are wonderful creations from the Almighty One God.
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:09:46 PM
imperfektmhope u got my reply
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:25:34 PM
why u killed jews then ?what is the logic behind eid ?
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:26:20 PM
nowhere does Islam preach kill the infidels..Only verses are Surah Tauba Chapter 9 verses 5-7..This is purely a situational verse revealed at the time of war when the meccan pagans broke their peace treaty and the muslims were asked to fight them and kill them when attacked.. This verse HAS NO RELEVANCE OTHER THAN THAT PEACE TREATY...repeatedly misleading the people on this issue even after clarifications is mischief mongering on your part and shows your dirtbag character!
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:31:37 PM
imperfektthanks for tagging us infidel... anyways it shows the respect u have for us.... and we also know what taquyya means...here is 164 tracked referances from arabic koran...which calls for jihad and killing infidels... i will publish in a short while in blog... so can provide some good knowledge to you..K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:38:07 PM
All the verses mentioned by you were revealed during actual WAR situations and hostilities...Has no relevance today on belief..Just maintained for the originality of the Quran
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 6:43:28 PM
any kil***g which took place was ONLY during host*lities and w*r and nothing more. Similar to Ram**an and Maha***rat where the wars fou*ht were for just*ce and tr*th. The prop**t always fou*ht for tr*th and it is a FACT. No unj*st kil*ings by him, everything else is fa*** propag**da and nothing more and nothing less.
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:07:46 PM
why not....if even i accept your points.. then war never ended...Osama praised Amin al husseini in oct-2001... a figure not only responsible for jewish holocaust.. but various others...www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.htmland the end goal was to restore caliphet...and look at the tragic thing, where we hindus were supporting you in khaliphet movement....your grand mufti of jerusalem.. came to india, invoked mopla riots... had laid roots of partation of india... and you still think we should belive you.... you have attacked us in our back.... we will never forgive you for your insane contribution. we were helping you to save your caliphet... and you burned our india and divided it into parts.. in short you are not faithful... you just know how to kill others on name of allah, but you dont know how to live on name of allah...the taquiyya will not work anymore, becauz the faith is broken...
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:20:12 PM
online koran to varify the sura'Swww.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.htmlcheck chapter 9, because we fall in categories of idolaters
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:40:31 PM
Again I repeat The verses mentioned are for that peroid during hosti*ities 1400 years ago and NOT AT ALL APPLICABLE 2DAY...any mu*lim whether Sh*hi I*am, or A*MPLB or even the th*rd rate b*got B*n La*en doesn't follow the corect isl*mic principles and te*chings of Q*ran and Su*nah then they are NOT TRU mulsims but faeks spoil*ng the name of a graet reliigon. By malig*ing islam you people are falling into the tarp of these B*gots who are justfying their causes by blaming you people. I DONT SUBSCRIBE NEITHER DO MILLIONS OF M*SLIMS LIKE ME TO THESE B*GOTS...period.
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:44:43 PM
every religion has BLACK SHEEPS and UNETHICAL ELEMENTS..justfying thru these elements is wrong.. Our constitution is the guiding force of our country, if one doen't follow the constitution then is the person wrong or the law?Quran and Sunnah is never wrong..only the followers among whom there are illiterate black sheeps.
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:49:57 PM
In daily life 95% of the people I interact with are Jains, Punjabis, Brahmins, dalits and other caste hindus. I am comfortable with all of them and VICE VERSA. Never in my lifetime has the word kafirs, idolators, mullahs, bigots, hate, terrorism, back stabbing etc arised with my fellow human beings. THIS IS THE FACT OF LIFE AND SAME EVERYWHERE IN A MAJORITY OF THE PLACES.
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:50:57 PM
if the verses are for that period, then tear up half of your koran.. and remove those hate referances.... christians do have removed those all hate referances from bible... so do jews, and so do hindus, who do not follow any more "manu smriti"... we move now with ambedkar smriti... why muslims cant come further?
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:55:04 PM
partition was not instigated by the common muslim or hindu. It was a planned ops by British, Jinnah and Nehru..ulterior and selfish motives by these 3 were the root cause.
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:57:23 PM
for every mopla riot you have bombay or bhagalpur riots, for every kashmir you have a gujarat, for every temple you have a babri masjid...the scum is the same everywhere..pinpointing is useless
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:59:40 PM
well so who told you i am giving a clean chit to Nehru... infact nehrus himself is one of the most controvesital hindu... because his roots clashes with a muslim who changed name to a kahmiri pandit after 1857 mutiny...the problem is with you guys, after independance world had changed... but muslim still follow the same guidance of Amin al husseini.... i have no problem with Bahai, durze, hashimet... but i do have problem with shia sunnis... who are growing more and more radical every day
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:12:54 PM
we are trying and having success..but who hears the voice of a moderate muslim..the media wants sensationalism and prefer the statements of bigots like bin laden and shahi imammuslims are not bringing the country down..it is corruption done by 1000s of hindus working in govt jobs and also the politicians majority of whom are hindus..The problems of the common man whether hindu, muslim or anybody is the same...religion plays no part in the day to day hardships of the common man..all suffer the same
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:15:13 PM
if you are moderate muslim, why dont you raise your voice...why dont you start to bring those black sheeps out of your mosques...
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:19:11 PM
you said "but muslim still follow the same guidance of Amin al husseini...."Honestly this is the first time I am hearing of that person..have to check in the net for details.. and NO MUSLIM IS INSPIRED BY SUCH BIGOTS...Those who do are NOT TRUE MUSLIMS BUT FAKES..An honest muslim like me follows only the Quran and the Sunnah and goes by it...like I said in my lifetime where has the Q and S affected me? My relationship with non muslims is proof that Q and S doesn't misguide if followed correctly..It is the same case for all religions and scriptures...one who doesn't follow correctly LOSES.
Infidel Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:40:06 PM
Dear Imperfektm,(1)Are you a true muslim? I don't think you are or you are using taqiyya.Tell me one thing, in islam the whole world is divided in two, dar-ul-islam and dar-ul-herb.I hope you understand the meaning of these two words. If not, let me explain to you. Before that let me teach you summary of islam first.In Islamic theology and legal interpretations, the ultimate aim of Islam is to bring the whole world under the dominion of Islam. Accordingly each part of the world is given a descriptive status to delineate its current state in regards to the aims of Islam and to define the permissible conduct of Muslims in those regions.
Infidel Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:55:58 PM
(2)In Islam the world is divided into two components: dar al-Islam, the house of submission and dar al-Harb, the house of WAR. I repeat rest is HOUSE OF WAR, did you get this?So whoever is not in the house of submission (islamic) is house of war (all infidels, as you mentioned). This is the basis of islamic wars from Mo's time to till date and in future too.You claim to be a moderate muslim (I en...cou..nte..red with many, one of a clas* is muneer), but understand very clearly, being a moderate muslim means you are not following islam in tot*llity and hence you are not a true muslim (I am sorry, but this is the truth). In order to be a true muslim you have to do jihad against infidels like me, PM and all others to achieve the ultimate goal of islam, the domination of islam the world over.For your kind information, islam was never the greatest religion nor the major one. Just think over it
amardeep_malaysia Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:11:41 PM
Infidel very well understand that he is wrong and he is doing only to feed his stomach.Why eat the bread of dishonesty and falsehood when you can live with pride even with small amount of money.Do you think the conversion to Islam will stop?All people are not stupid and they will listen to their rationale and heart and acceept Islam as their faith.Please keep trying your cheap tactics of spreading hatred as you will see only its growth...take care
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:14:57 PM
ask the deobandis... and also ask the yearly deligation going to palestein..Amin al husseini was grand mufti of Jerusalem... arrived in india in 1923. tabligghi jammat was always used in pre indepandace to communicate with him... by end of WW2.. arabs were free,and deobandis come openly with Amin al husseini...he also has a very sharp impression on khomaeini... thus you know what is Islamic movement of Iran, how shia muslims are also connected to it beside wahabis, salafia and various jammats...
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:16:12 PM
Mr. PM,Read the reply of Infidel and you will know why the voices of the moderate muslims is not heard. Even if a muslim is true like me he is accused by people like Infidel who manipulate words and instigate the emotional muslims into wrong actions. Muslims are emotional people for whom the Quran and Prophet are very dear. People like Infidel attack this basic foundation and instigate violence and watch it from the sidelines and defame the muslims as anti national or terrorists or pedophiles etc etc.
Infidel Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:17:59 PM
(3)To achieve world dominition of islam, it has very clear instructions:For people of book (Chistians and Jews)-- 3 options -- convert, pay zijiya (subdued and taxed) or die.for idolaors (all other infidels)-- 2 options-- convert or die.You can find by yourself in your holy quran and sunnah about these in details. (if not let me know, I will give you the references from these HOLY SCRIPTURES, not from anti islamic sites but from AUTHENTIC ISLAMIC SITES as per muneer).Even if I go by your version of islam that some of the surah and verses are for a perticular time and place, it itself makes your quran wrong.Quran claims that it the true word of allah and is for all the times, all the places and all people.So either you are right or your holy quran is right? decide by yourself.
Infidel Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:27:42 PM
amardeep,charity begins with home.Why don't you convert to islam and leave this dhimmi-status. That will further prove your point.Many times I have asked you to keep yourself away from me, but you seem to be a kind of dhimmi who will never learn.If you understand islam that well, why don't you give a try to refute any of the issues raised by me instead of talking nonsense all the times.I know either you will not show your face on this blog again or will start abusing as you always do.
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:31:33 PM
amardeepyes, all peoples.. who do want to enslave other womens, had eyes on others wealth and want to kill infidels on name of religion will definately accept islam.. as this is what it teaches...check, i had provided online koran
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:35:56 PM
Many likeminded people are doing a great job and I am sure it will bear fruit in the years to come..also the world environment has to improve USA must stop bullying the world along with Israel..This is the root cause for dealiniating the muslims in the M.East. Touch your hearts and tell whether what the USA and Israel are doing world over is right or wrong? There are bound to be reactions. So where is the solution? Everyone has to make an effort not just the muslims alone.
imperfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:37:05 PM
Mr.Infidel,There is no compulsion in religion plus the verses of chapter 114. God only commands muslims to say the truth to others but no compulsion. All the other verses are admonishments for unbelievers like hellfire, judgement day, book of deeds etc. If you dont believe in Islam, fine no problem, no compulsion and no killing. Quran cannot be blamed for the work of bigots like Ghazni or Babur etc..All these are individual acts of people..similarly acts by Kanchi Seer or Chandraswami or modi or nithari accused cannot be the basis for judging all hindus..It is foolishness to do that...similarly dont judge everything in one way.
Infidel Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:42:55 PM
Dear IM,One suggestion.If you really know islam, stop taqiyya, because that will not work here.If you really don't know islam, (only know what is said by Dr naik and mullas) please read your holy quran, sunnah, hadiths, tafsirs and sharia by yourself (if you don't know arabic, try english translation from reputed ones like YUSUF ALI, PICKTHAL etc) and learn the true face of islam.Don't fall for what is said to you, read and understand by yourself.
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:45:06 PM
mr imperketmwell i know there is ultra right too.. but when its a problem from islam, then u guys have to solve it..if we really enter, then u know well that the lead will be from ultra right...the solution is in hands of moderate muslims.... because the polarization of society started from muslim side, and if you need to depolarise it... then again muslims need to work for it..
hindu view Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:46:34 PM
Dear Infidel,I think you are hurting people's feeling. I guess you don't have any job to do but just bash people following Islam. I have read this whole conversation, and what I see MR. Imperftm is trying to say that every muslim is not what you think but time and again you are hurting his feeling. I really feel sorry for you sir imprefectm. I guess you are right people creates atomsphere of animosity and then watch everything by hiding their face. I don't have time but I think, Infidel sir, just give importance to humanbeing, their thoughts and not their religion. WILL YOU CURSE APJ AZAD, IF NO THAN WHY YOU ARE BASHING MR. IMPRERFECTM JUST BECAUSE HE IS NOT REKNOWN PERSON. PLEASE FOR GOD SAKE STOP SPREADING HATE.
Infidel Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:47:49 PM
Dear IM,you seem to be a master of taqiyya.No problem.Regarding NO COMPULSION IN ISLAM, read my article "www.ndtvblogs.com/views/viewcomments.asp?gl_guid=F9D2979B-FF59-41A4-856D-DC00EFA1CEF8&q_blogid=7275&blogname=EnlightenedThere is a COMPULSION in islam and you cannot deny the word of "ALLAH".Islam is evil by its very nature and so called moderate muslims like you either ignorant about this or use taqiyya to hide the evil face of islam or portray that "islam means peace and tolerance"So wake up IM. See the true face of your HOLY ISLAM
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:52:50 PM
here is chapter 9..will you let the hindus live with peace ?www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=282392
perfektm Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:57:51 PM
special advice.. to concentrate onsura005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029, 036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083, 086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123 in chapter 9..still whole koran is accessable atwww.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
imperfektm Monday, February 19, 2007 12:01:03 AM
Dear Infidel,Quran talks about preaching with beaut*ful words or coming to common terms or speaking good and forbi*ding ev*l etc. It is a duty of a muslim to convey the message. NO COMPULSION IN ACCEPTANCE. Allah mentions the punisments for disbelieving. Where is compulsion in that? If you dont belive in Allah then no question abt believing the punishemnts mentioned either. So where is ev*l? Every scripture speaks both good and ev*l and about punisments and heav*ns and hels etc. Then why single out the Quran?
Infidel Monday, February 19, 2007 12:04:44 AM
Dear Im,Who is saying that those verses are for that time period only? moderate muslims like you, right.Fanatics are still sticking to them. So who is right, people like you or people like osma & khomani?Are you trying to put words in allah's mouth. Did he mention it in quran that these verses are only for 7th century and should not be followed afterwards? Did Mo said so? NO.Do you think, allah, the most merciful and all knowing was not knowing the impact of those verses in following centuries, that those verses will the basis for killing of hundreds of thousands of innocents and forgot to tell that these verses are rubbish after that time is gone. Allah (rather MO) uses abrogation many times in quran but just forgot to mention this time. What a joke?
imperfektm Monday, February 19, 2007 12:05:18 AM
PM,Again you are mentioning the verses revealed during wartime. I have read every verse. THEY DONT APPLY NOW..these verses are there just for maintaining the originality of the Quran and nothing more. Please understand that and its a waste to keep bringing that fact again and again.
Infidel Monday, February 19, 2007 12:06:44 AM
Dear IM, Did you read my said article in full?There is a compulsion in islam in the name of allah. No surpise, being muslim you will not see it.OK, Show me a single verse in your holy quran which tells to love infidels.
imperfektm Monday, February 19, 2007 12:10:26 AM
Surah 8 (Al Anfal - The spoils of War) was revealed during the battle of badr - the first islamic warSurah 9 (Tauba - repentence) was rervealed during the tabuk expiditions and subsequent peace treaties with non muslims and how they were UNILATERALLY broken by the non muslims leading to war etc.These verses are period verses and have no value on the shariah rulings or lifestyles of muslims.
perfektm Monday, February 19, 2007 12:12:43 AM
IM..can you please guide us, how much of those battles were not started or provoked by Islam...
perfektm Monday, February 19, 2007 12:15:48 AM
islamic battles including the one you are talking aboutwww.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/terrorist1.html
Infidel Monday, February 19, 2007 12:16:47 AM
Dear IM,My 3 point reply was to show you the truth about islam when you were telling lies about islam like1)nowhere does Islam preach kill the infidels2)Quran and Sunnah is never wrong3)An honest muslim like me follows only the Quran and the Sunnah and goes by it.there are only two choices for muslims:1) be a true muslim and follow quran and sunnah and kill infidels in order to make islam donition world over.2) leave islam and be prepared to be killed, as punishment for apostate in islam is death.There is no term as MODERATE MULSIM" in islam. Show me moderate muslims mentioned in islam any where atleast once.This is the bitter truth about islam. So stop your lies and learn your own religion first.
ganshyam bhonsdiwala Monday, February 19, 2007 1:41:19 AM
There is no doubt that Islam is perverse religion indulging in war against humanity. There should be WWIII to stop further expansion of Islam and return to desert where Jihadis may enjoy company of camels for entertainment of perverse nature.
perfektm Monday, February 19, 2007 1:54:10 AM
ganshyam...the war was never over... its only we categorize it as WW1, WW2 and so on...till now kufirs were fighing and muslims were pumping the war... now they are showing the true colors... the only fear is that WW2 paused when nukes were droped on Japan... and if the situation goes like this, then it will resume when iran will attain Nukes...

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